@Bib Fortuna Thanks for all of your information as a lot of it is very interesting. After not being a part of this thread for 300+ posts, you then commented on 8 separate occasions and at no point in those 8 posts did you say anything like this:
"Hey, I'm really enjoying this cool thread."
"Thanks for posting such detailed reviews of zoos. Wow, you even have some complete lists of species in Reptile Houses. Great job man."
"I'm loving your reviews, but I just wanted to correct you on something."
"You wrote 3,000 words on a couple of zoos? Thanks for your contribution to ZooChat, but I disagree with some of your points."
Anything along those lines would have been satisfactory, just out of common courtesy if nothing else. Okay? I suppose it would be nice to feel appreciated, rather than post 47,000 words (that's a direct word count as of right now) and have some nerds point out some minor errors. Also, I stand by what I said about the Grzimek House's opening times. Whether it's beneficial for the zookeepers is one thing, but whatever the reason it is obviously not convenient for almost a million zoo visitors each year and that was my point. Wuppertal Zoo is even worse, because it's Aquarium/Terrarium doesn't open until
an hour and a half after the zoo opens, and it's set on top of a hill and so first-time visitors have to hike all the way back up the hill again later in the day when the zoo is more congested. Totally bonkers.
A quote that I love:
Gerald Durrell, that legendary conservationist, author, founder of Jersey Zoo and hero of many zoo nerds once said "I think that having spent five minutes in a place you have every right to criticize. Whether your criticisms are valid or not is for the reader to decide. But at any rate, I can say one thing with all honesty - that it was a glorious trip and I enjoyed every moment of it."
You know who posted something great today? The ZooChat member
@jwer , as he said that he's "having a lot of fun reading everything"..."I mostly agree"..."love this thread"...but that "Blijdorp and Cologne just don't do it for me". Now that's an honest and worthwhile post!
Criticism is valid in many forms, and a good example of something that sparked comments is the Madagascar House at Cologne Zoo. I would estimate that 90% of my review for Cologne Zoo was overwhelmingly positive and I said that the zoo will be one of the very best that I'll visit on this trip. No one mentioned anything about my positive comments on the elephant complex or several other areas, but 3 different zoo nerds all brought up my thoughts on the Madagascar House. It's like that parent who gets their kid's report card sent home from school, and the kid has 7 "A's" and a "C" in one other class. Well, the parent gets mad at the kid, or phones the school, or emails the teacher, and causes a huge commotion because of the "C" letter grade. I always tell parents to focus on the positives and the streak of "A" grades, not the darn "C". Again, totally bonkers.
Cologne Zoo is a wonderful zoo and I had two full days to think about what to type out in my review. As much as I love the facility, those lemur steel ball things are AWFUL. Some folks obviously like them and the Euro-nerds are standing up for that part of Cologne Zoo because heaven forbid I criticize anything about one of the great German zoos...but looking through all of my photos I see 95% cement floor, steel bars, metal pipes and only a little hay as natural substrate within the indoor quarters. Outside it is a mound of metal and almost nothing else. Some of these privately-run, roadside German zoos have better lemur accommodation! It's a brutal set of exhibits, absolutely substandard, especially compared to the plentiful walk-through enclosures or all-around top-notch primate exhibits that I've seen in many European zoos. I LOVE Cologne Zoo...but get the bulldozer ready!