ZooChat Challenge North America 2020

jayjds2

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New year, new decade, new challenge. Sad to see @Vision and @KevinVar go, of course, and this year North America and Europe are not mirroring challenges. Last year we broke away from taxonomic boundaries for geographic ones; this year, North America’s challenge will be splitting from the norm even further: this year’s challenge is IUCN Threatened Mammals, Birds, Reptiles and Amphibians, with thanks to @d1am0ndback for the idea!

As I’m sure we all know, the International Union for the Conservation of Nature has a sliding scale rating the likelihood of extinction of animals. Not every animal is evaluated, but most zoo animals are. With the modern zoo often existing for the purpose of conservation, many collections have shifted to the keeping and breeding of Threatened species. These species are those which fall in the categories of Vulnerable, Endangered, Critically Endangered, or Extinct in the Wild. So, these are the species that count for the challenge. To avoid bloating our lists too much, I’m restricting the challenge to non-fish vertebrates: amphibians, reptiles, birds, and mammals.

And before I get into the actual rules, I thought I’d mention the fun one: put all your lifer species in bold! This is a great way to track your personal growth throughout the year.

Now, for the rules, with thanks to @Shorts for coming up with the initial set from which these are modified:

1. You have to actually see the animal, even if just for a second. Seeing the sign for the animal or simply visiting the collection that has it does not count.
2. Photographic proof is not required, though it of course always helps to keep track of what you’ve seen. Your word is your bond.
3. All entries must be presented in numbered list form, with scientific names included.
4. You have to see the animal via normal public access during normal public opening hours. Behind-the-scenes tours, whether offered by the zoo commercially or by a certain individual privately, do not count, nor do keeper-for-a-day programs or anything of the sort. Basically the species has to be seen as Joe Public would, from the public area of the zoo while it is open.
5. Any severely limited opening or private collections don't count for this challenge. While some may disagree with this rule, it disadvantages others who are unable to arrange visits to such collections during those times. Facilities that may only be visited by tours are acceptable as long as the tours are offered during a large portion of the year. An example of this is Duke Lemur Center.
6. Only public zoological collections count. Animals seen at farms, exotic animal expos, or pet stores of any kind do not count. If a certain collection is confusing to you, please feel free to reply here with questions.
7. Report your progress on this thread as you go along. While you won’t lose points for not doing so, it is more competitive if each person can see how all the other participants are faring. You do not need to re-type your list every time you update, quoting the previous post is sufficient. Include the collection you saw the species at and the date you visited it.
8. Only one subspecies per species can be counted. If you do not see a pure subspecies, it is still okay to count the species. Refer to the accepted taxonomy for any subspecies questions or elevations.
9. Similarly, refer to the accepted taxonomy (in this case, IUCN) for any species splits.
10. Hybrid animals do not count. Any issues that may arise due to the taxonomy we are following will be discussed on a case-by-case basis.
11. Wild animals do not count, all species must be seen in captivity in North America under the conditions listed above.
12. Any issues with any of the above rules is open to discussion but the rules are set and any decisions made are final.
13. The winner will be the person who has seen the most species by December 31, 2020. Please be sure to have all of your entries in by or on that date.

Here’s IUCN for reference: IUCN

And the master lists of species:

  1. Tasmanian devil, Sarcophilus harrisii

  2. Matschie’s tree-kangaroo, Dendrolagus matschiei

  3. Sulawesi bear cuscus, Ailurops ursinus

  4. Brush-tailed bettong, Bettongia penicillata

  5. Koala, Phascolarctos cinereus

  6. Addax, Addax nasomaculatus

  7. Aoudad, Ammotragus lervia

  8. Gaur, Bos gaurus

  9. Banteng, Bos javanicus

  10. Lowland anoa, Bubalus depressicornis

  11. Takin, Budorcas taxicolor

  12. Nubian ibex, Capra nubiana

  13. Red-fronted gazelle, Eudorcas rufifrons

  14. Cuvier’s gazelle, Gazella cuvieri

  15. Rhim gazelle, Gazella leptoceros

  16. Speke’s gazelle, Gazella spekei

  17. Goitered gazelle, Gazella subgutturosa

  18. Nile lechwe, Kobus megaceros

  19. Addra gazelle, Nanger dama

  20. Soemmerring’s gazelle, Nanger soemmerringii

  21. Chinese goral, Naemorhedus caudatus

  22. Arabian oryx, Oryx leucoryx

  23. Beisa oryx, Oryx beisa

  24. Scimitar-horned oryx, Oryx dammah

  25. Mouflon, Ovis orientalis/gmelini

  26. Giant eland, Tragelaphus derbianus

  27. Pere David’s deer, Elaphurus davidianus

  28. Calamian deer, Axis calamianensis

  29. Hog deer, Axis porcinus

  30. White-lipped deer, Cervus albirostris

  31. Reindeer, Rangifer tarandus

  32. Barasingha, Rucervus duvaucelii

  33. Eld’s deer, Rucervus eldii

  34. Sambar, Rusa unicolor

  35. Giraffe, Giraffa camelopardalis

  36. Okapi, Okapi johnstoni

  37. Pygmy hippopotamus, Choeropsis liberiensis

  38. Common hippopotamus, Hippopotamus amphibius

  39. Siberian musk deer, Moschus moschiferus

  40. Babirusa, Babyrousa celebensis

  41. Visayan warty pig, Sus cebifrons

  42. Chacoan peccary, Catagonus wagneri

  43. Red wolf, Canis rufus

  44. Dhole, Cuon alpinus

  45. African wild dog, Lycaon pictus

  46. Fossa, Cryptoprocta ferox

  47. Fanaloka, Fossa fossana

  48. Cheetah, Acinonyx jubatus

  49. Black-footed cat, Felis nigripes

  50. Mainland clouded leopard, Neofelis nebulosa

  51. Lion, Panthera leo

  52. Leopard, Panthera pardus

  53. Tiger, Panthera tigris

  54. Snow leopard, Panthera uncia

  55. Fishing cat, Prionailurus viverrinus

  56. Eastern spotted skunk, Spilogale putorius

  57. Asian small-clawed otter, Aonyx cinereus

  58. Sea otter, Enhydra lutris

  59. Black-footed ferret, Mustela nigripes

  60. Giant otter, Pteronura brasiliensis

  61. Pacific walrus, Odobenus rosmarus

  62. Hawaiian monk sea, Monachus schauinslandi

  63. Giant panda, Ailuropoda melanoleuca

  64. Sun bear, Helarctos malayanus

  65. Sloth bear, Melursus ursinus

  66. Andean bear, Tremarctos ornatus

  67. Polar bear, Ursus maritimus

  68. Asian black bear, Ursus thibetanus

  69. Binturong, Arctictis binturong

  70. Grey-headed flying fox, Pteropus poliocephalus

  71. Rodrigues flying fox, Pteropus rodricensis

  72. African wild ass, Equus africanus

  73. Przewalski’s horse, Equus ferus

  74. Grevy;s zebra, Equus grevyi

  75. Mountain zebra, Equus zebra

  76. Black rhinoceros, Diceros bicornis

  77. Greater one-horned rhinoceros, Rhinoceros unicornis

  78. Baird’s tapir, Tapirus baridii

  79. Malayan tapir, Tapirus indicus

  80. Mountain tapir, Tapirus pinchaque

  81. Lowland tapir, Tapirus terrestris

  82. White-bellied tree pangolin, Phataginus tricuspis

  83. Giant anteater, Myrmecophaga tridactylus

  84. Grey-handed night monkey, Aotus griseimembra

  85. Nancy Ma’s night monkey, Aotus nancymaae

  86. Black spider monkey, Ateles fusciceps

  87. Geoffroy’s spider monkey, Ateles geoffroyi

  88. Brown spider monkey, Ateles hybridus

  89. Callimico, Callimico goeldii

  90. Wied’s marmoset, Callithrix kuhlii

  91. Golden-headed lion tamarin, Leontopithecus chrysomelas

  92. Golden lion tamarin, Leotopithecus rosalia

  93. Pied tamarin, Saguinus bicolor

  94. Cotton-top tamarin, Saguinus oedipus

  95. Crested capuchin, Sapajus robustus

  96. Red-capped mangabey, Cercocebus torquatus

  97. Diana monkey, Cercopithecus diana

  98. Black-crested mangabey, Lophocebus aterrimus

  99. Black-crested macaque, Macaca nigra

  100. Booted macaque, Macaca ochreata

  101. Lion-tailed macaque, Macaca silenus

  102. Drill, Mandrillus leucophaeus

  103. Mandrill, Mandrillus sphinx

  104. Javan langur, Trachypithecus auratus

  105. Francois langur, Trachypithecus francoisi

  106. Aye-aye, Daubentonia madagascariensis

  107. Western lowland gorilla, Gorilla gorilla

  108. Bonobo, Pan paniscus

  109. Chimpanzee, Pan troglodytes

  110. Sumatran orangutan, Pongo abelii

  111. Bornean orangutan, Pongo pygmaeus

  112. Eastern hoolock, Hoolock leuconedys

  113. White-handed gibbon, Hylobates lar

  114. Silvery gibbon, Hylobates moloch

  115. Mueller’s gibbon, Hylobates muelleri

  116. Pileated gibbon, Hylobates pileatus

  117. Buff-cheeked gibbon, Nomascus gabriellae

  118. Northern white-cheeked gibbon, Nomascus leucogenys

  119. Siamang, Symphalangus syndactylus

  120. Coquerel’s sifaka, Propithecus coquereli

  121. White-fronted lemur, Eulemur albifrons

  122. Collared lemur, Eulemur collaris

  123. Crowned lemur, Eulemur coronatus

  124. Blue-eyed black lemur, Eulemur flavifrons

  125. Black lemur, Eulemur macaco

  126. Mongoose lemur, Eulemur mongoz

  127. Red-bellied lemur, Eulemur rubriventer

  128. Northern red-fronted brown lemur, Eulemur rufus

  129. Eastern lesser grey bamboo lemur, Hapalemur griseus

  130. Ring-tailed lemur, Lemur catta

  131. Red-ruffed lemur, Varecia rubra

  132. Black-and-white ruffed lemur, Varecia variegata

  133. Red slender loris, Loris tardigradis

  134. Pygmy slow loris, Nycticebus pygmaeus

  135. Red uakari, Cacajao calvus

  136. Asian elephant, Elephas maximus

  137. African bush elephant, Loxodonta africana

  138. Long-tailed chinchilla, Chinchilla lanigera

  139. New England Cottontail, Sylvilagus transitionalis

  140. Malagasy giant jumping rat, Hypogeomys antimena

  141. West Indian manatee, Trichechus manatus

  1. Somali Ostrich, Struthio molybdophanes

  2. North Island Brown Kiwi, Apteryx mantelli

  3. Double-wattled Cassowary, Casuarius casuarius

  4. Blue-billed Curassow, Crax alberti

  5. Black Curassow, Crax alector

  6. Red-billed Curassow, Crax blumenbachii

  7. Wattled Curassow, Crax globulosa

  8. Great Curassow, Crax rubra

  9. Horned Guan, Oreophasis derbianus

  10. Northern Helmeted Curassow, Pauxi pauxi

  11. Southern Helmeted Curassow, Pauxi unicornis

  12. Maleo, Macrocephalon maleo

  13. Tongan Scrubfowl, Megapodius pritchardii

  14. Congo Peafowl, Afropavo congensis

  15. Brown Eared-pheasant, Crossoptilon mantchuricum

  16. Edward's Pheasant, Lophura edwardsi

  17. Malayan Crestless Fireback, Lophura erythrophthalma

  18. Green Peafowl, Pavo mucus

  19. Mountain Peacock-pheasant, Polyplectron inopinatum

  20. Malayan Peacock-pheasant, Polyplectron malacense

  21. Palawan Peacock-pheasant, Polyplectron napoleonis

  22. Reeve's Pheasant, Syrmaticus reevesii

  23. Blythe's Tragopan, Tragopan blythii

  24. Cabot's Tragopan, Tragopan caboti

  25. Greater Prairie Chicken, Tympanuchus cupido

  26. West Indian Whistling Duck, Dendrocygna arborea

  27. White-headed Duck, Oxyura leucocephala

  28. Red-breasted Goose, Branta ruficollis

  29. Hawaiian Goose, Branta sandvicensis

  30. Swan Goose, Anser cygnoides

  31. Scaly-sided Merganser, Mergus squamatus

  32. Blue-winged Goose, Cyanochen cyanoptera

  33. Marbled Duck, Marmaronetta angustirostris

  34. White-winged Wood Duck, Asarcornis scutulata

  35. Baer's Pochard, Aythya baeri

  36. Common Pochard, Aythya ferina

  37. Madagascar Teal, Anas bernieri

  38. Laysan Teal, Anas laysanensis

  39. Phillipine Duck, Anas luzonica

  40. Hawaiian Duck, Anas wyvilliana

  41. Long-tailed Duck, Clangula hyemalis

  42. Chimney Swift, Chaetura pelagica

  43. Socorro Dove, Zenaida graysoni

  44. Salvin's Pigeon, Patagioenas oenops

  45. Philipine Collared Dove, Streptopelia dussumieri

  46. European Turtle Dove, Streptopelia turtur

  47. Pink Pigeon, Nesoenas mayeri

  48. Mindanao Bleeding-heart Dove, Gallicolumba crinigera

  49. White-naped Pheasant Pigeon, Otidiphaps aruensis

  50. Western Crowned Pigeon, Goura cristata

  51. Mariana Fruit Dove, Ptilinopus roseicapilla

  52. African Black Crowned Crane, Balearica pavonina

  53. Grey Crowned Crane, Balearica regulorum

  54. Siberian Crane, Leucogeranus leucogeranus

  55. White-naped Crane, Antigone vipio

  56. Sarus Crane, Antigone antigone

  57. Wattled Crane, Bugeranus carunculatus

  58. Blue Crane, Anthropoides paradiseus

  59. Red-crowned Crane, Grus japonensis

  60. Whooping Crane, Grus americana

  61. Hooded Crane, Grus monacha

  62. Black-necked Crane, Grus nigricollis

  63. Guam Rail, Hypotaenidia owstoni

  64. Ridgeway's Rail, Rallus obsoletus

  65. Atlantic Puffin, Fratercula arctica

  66. Kagu, Rhynochetos jubatus

  67. Humboldt Penguin, Spheniscus humboldti

  68. African Penguin, Spheniscus demersus

  69. Southern Rockhopper, Eudyptes chrysocome

  70. Macaroni Penguin, Eudyptes chrysolophus

  71. Northern Rockhopper Penguin, Eudyptes moseleyi

  72. Milky Stork, Mycteria cinerea

  73. Storm's Stork, Ciconia stormi

  74. Oriental White Stork, Ciconia boyciana

  75. Lesser Adjutant, Leptoptilos javanicus

  76. Northern Bald Ibis, Geronticus eremita

  77. Southern Bald Ibis, Geronticus calvus

  78. Shoebill, Balaeniceps rex

  79. California Condor, Gymnogyps californianus

  80. Lappet-faced Vulture, Torgos tracheliotos

  81. White-backed Vulture, Gyps africanus

  82. White-rumped Vulture, Gyps bengalensis

  83. Cape Vulture, Gyps coprotheres

  84. Ruppel's Vulture, Gyps rueppellii

  85. Hooded Vulture, Necrosyrtes monachus

  86. Egyptian Vulture, Neophron percnopterus

  87. White-headed Vulture, Trigonoceps occipitalis

  88. Martial Eagle, Polemaetus bellicosus

  89. Steller's Sea Eagle, Haliaeetus pelagicus

  90. Secretary Bird, Sagittarius serpentarius

  91. Southern Ground Hornbill, Bucorvus leadbeateri

  92. South Sulawesi Tarictic Hornbill, Rhabdotorrhinus exarhatus

  93. Red-knobbed Hornbill, Rhyticeros cassidix

  94. Yellow-casqued Hornbill, Ceratogymna elata

  95. Guam Kingfisher, Todiramphus cinnamonius

  96. Red-billed Toucan, Ramphastos tucanus

  97. Channel-billed Toucan, Ramphastos vitellinus

  98. Saker Falcon, Falco cherrug

  99. Kea, Nestor notabilis

  100. Lesser Sulfur-crested Cockatoo, Cacatua sulphurea

  101. Umbrella Cockatoo, Cacatua alba

  102. Moluccan Cockatoo, Cacatua moluccensis

  103. African Grey Parrot, Psittacus erithacus

  104. Timneh Parrot, Psittacus timneh

  105. Hyacinth Macaw, Anodorhynchus hyacinthus

  106. Blue-throated Macaw, Ara glaucogularis

  107. Great Green Macaw, Ara ambiguus

  108. Military Macaw, Ara militaris

  109. Red-fronted Macaw, Ara rubrogenys

  110. Blue-headed Macaw, Primolius couloni

  111. Thick-billed Parrot, Rhynchopsitta pachyrhyncha

  112. Golden Conure, Guaruba guarouba

  113. Sun Conure, Aratinga soltitalis

  114. Yellow-shouldered Amazon, Amazona barbadensis

  115. Yellow-headed Amazon, Amazona oratrix

  116. St. Vincent Amazon, Amazona guildingii

  117. Puerto Rican Amazon, Amazona vittata

  118. White-bellied Caique, Pionites leucogaster

  119. Pesquet Parrot, Psittrichas fulgidus

  120. Horned Parakeet, Eunymphicus cornutus

  121. Red-and-blue Lory, Eos histrio

  122. Forsten's Lorikeet, Trichoglossus forsteni

  123. Biak Lorikeet, Trichoglossus rosenbergii

  124. Purple-naped Lory, Lorius domicella

  125. Black-cheeked Lovebird, Agapornis nigrigenis

  126. Long-wattled Umbrellabird, Cephalopterus penduliger

  127. Bridled White-eye, Zosterops conspicillatus

  128. Golden White-eye, Cleptornis marchei

  129. Blue-crowned Laughingthrush, Garrulax courtoisi

  130. Bali Mynah, Leucopsar rothschildi

  131. Java Sparrow, Lonchura oryzivora


  1. Madagascar big-headed turtle, Erymnochelys madagascariensis

  2. Big-headed Amazon river turtle, Peltocephalus dumerilianus

  3. Red-headed side-necked turtle, Podocnemis erythrocephala

  4. Yellow-spotted Amazon river turtle, Podocnemis unifilis

  5. Roti Island snake-necked turtle, Chelodina mccordi

  6. Parker’s snake-necked turtle, Chelodina parkeri

  7. Mary River turtle, Elusor macrurus

  8. Fly River turtle, Carettochelys insculpta

  9. Asian narrow-headed softshell turtle, Chitra chitra

  10. Indian narrow-headed softshell turtle, Chitra indica

  11. Spotted turtle, Clemmys guttata

  12. Western pond turtle, Actinemys marmorata

  13. Bog turtle, Glyptemys muhlenbergii

  14. Wood turtle, Glyptemys insculpta

  15. Eastern box turtle, Terrapene carolina

  16. Cagle’s map turtle, Graptemys caglei

  17. Yellow-blotched map turtle, Graptemys flavimaculata

  18. Pascagoula map turtle, Graptemys gibbonsi

  19. Ringed sawback turtle, Graptemys oculifera

  20. Ornate slider, Trachemys ornata

  21. Southern river terrapin, Batagur affinis

  22. Northern river terrapin, Batagur baska

  23. Painted terrapin, Batagur borneoensis

  24. Southeast Asian box turtle, Cuora amboinensis

  25. Yellow-headed box turtle, Cuora aurocapitata

  26. Bourret’s box turtle, Cuora bourreti

  27. Chinese box turtle, Curoa flavomarginata

  28. McCord’s box turtle, Cuora mccordi

  29. Pan’s box turtle, Cuora pani

  30. Golden coin turtle, Cuora trifasciata

  31. Spotted pond turtle, Geoclemys hamiltonii

  32. Black-breasted leaf turtle, Geoemyda spengleri

  33. Giant Asian pond turtle, Heosemys grandis

  34. Yellow-headed temple turtle, Heosemys annandalii

  35. Spiny turtle, Heosemys spinosa

  36. Arakan forest turtle, Heosemys depressa

  37. Sulawesi forest turtle, Leucocephalon yuwonoi

  38. Vietnamese pond turtle, Mauremys annamensis

  39. Yellow pond turtle, Mauremys mutica

  40. Chinese pond turtle, Mauremys reevesii

  41. Chinese stripe-necked turtle, Mauremys sinensis

  42. Malaysian giant pond turtle, Orlitia borneensis

  43. Beal’s four-eyed turtle, Sacalia bealei

  44. Four-eyed turtle, Sacalia quadriocellata

  45. Black marsh turtle, Siebenrockiella crassicollis

  46. Home’s hingeback tortoise, Kinixys homeana

  47. Pancake tortoise, Malacochersus tornieri

  48. Asian brown tortoise, Manouria emys

  49. Impressed tortoise, Manouria impressa

  50. Common spider tortoise, Pyxis arachnoides

  51. Flat-tailed spider tortoise, Pyxis planicauda

  52. Egyptian tortoise, Testudo kleinmanni

  53. Agassiz’s desert tortoise, Gopherus agassizii

  54. Gopher tortoise, Gopherus polyphemus

  55. Elongated tortoise, Indotestudo elongata

  56. Forsten’s tortoise, Indotestudo forstenii

  57. Indian star tortoise, Geochelone elegans

  58. Burmese star tortoise, Geochelone platynota

  59. Aldabra giant tortoise, Aldabarachelys gigantea

  60. Radiated tortoise, Astrochelys radiata

  61. African spur-thighed tortoise, Centrochelys sulcata

  62. Chaco tortoise, Chelonoidis chilensis

  63. Yellow-footed tortoise, Chelonoidis denticulata

  64. Volcán Wolf giant tortoise, Chelonoidis becki

  65. Volcán Sierra Negra tortoise, Chelonoidis guntheri

  66. Volcán Darwin giant tortoise, Chelonoidis microphyes

  67. Western Santa Cruz giant tortoise, Chelonoidis porteri

  68. Volcán Alcedo giant tortoise, Chelonoidis vandenburghi

  69. Cerro Azul giant tortoise, Chelonoidis vicina

  70. Alligator snapping turtle, Macrochelys temminckii

  71. Central American river turtle, Dermatemys mawii

  72. Loggerhead sea turtle, Caretta caretta

  73. Kemps Ridley sea turtle, Lepidochelys kempii

  74. Olive Ridley sea turtle, Lepidochelys olivacea

  75. Green sea turtle, Chelonia mydas

  76. Hawksbill sea turtle, Eretmochelys imbricata

  77. Crested gecko, Correlophus ciliatus

  78. Bavay’s giant gecko, Mniarogekko chahoua

  79. Psychedelic rock gecko, Cnemaspis psychedelica

  80. Spearpoint leaf-tailed gecko, Uroplatus ebenaui

  81. Henkel’s leaf-tailed gecko, Uroplatus henkeli

  82. Klemmer’s day gecko, Phelsuma klemmeri

  83. Standing’s day gecko, Phelsuma standingi

  84. Electric blue cave gecko, Lygodactylus williamsi

  85. Chinese crocodile lizard, Shinisaurus crocodilurus

  86. Gray’s monitor, Varanus olivaceus

  87. Komodo dragon, Varanus komodoensis

  88. Mexican knob-scaled lizard, Xenosaurus grandis

  89. Hispaniolan giant galliwasp, Celestus warreni

  90. Depp’s alligator lizard, Abronia deppii

  91. Mexican alligator lizard, Abronia graminea

  92. Banded alligator lizard, Abronia taeniata

  93. Decary’s leaf chameleon, Brookesia decaryi

  94. Four-horned lizard, Trioceros quadricornis

  95. Philippine sailfin lizard, Hydrosaurus pustulatus

  96. Egyptian uromastyx, Uromastyx aegyptia

  97. Fiji banded iguana, Brachylophus bulabula

  98. Lau banded iguana, Brachylophus fasciatus

  99. Reticulate collared lizard, Crotaphytus reticulatus

  100. Utila island iguana, Ctenosaura bakeri

  101. Yucatan spinytail iguana, Ctenosaura defensor

  102. Club-tailed iguana, Ctenosaura quinquecarinata

  103. Jamaican iguana, Cyclura collei

  104. Rhinoceros iguana, Cyclura cornuta

  105. Grand Cayman blue iguana, Cyclura lewisi

  106. Cuban rock iguana, Cyclura nubila

  107. Anegada ground iguana, Cyclura pinguis

  108. Woma python, Aspidites ramsayi

  109. Burmese python, Python bivittatus

  110. Virgin Islands boa, Chilabothrus monensis

  111. Jamaican boa, Chilabothrus subflavus

  112. Ornate palm pitviper, Bothriechis aurifer

  113. Rowley’s palm pitviper, Bothriechis rowleyi

  114. Santa Catalina rattlesnake, Crotalus catalinensis

  115. Mexican black-tailed pitviper, Mixcoatlus melanurus

  116. Mangshan mountain viper, Protobothrops mangshanensis

  117. Usambara mountain viper, Atheris ceratophora

  118. Iranian mountain viper, Montivipera albicornuta

  119. Ocellated mountain viper, Montivipera wagneri

  120. Kaznakov’s viper, Vipera kaznakovi

  121. Southern snub-nosed viper, Vipera latastei

  122. Moellendorf’s ratsnake, Elaphe moellendorffi

  123. Louisiana pine snake, Pituophis ruthveni

  124. Giant garter snake, Thamnophis gigas

  125. Chinese cobra, Naja atra

  126. Black-and-white spitting cobra, Naja siamensis

  127. King cobra, Ophiophagus hannah

  128. Chinese alligator, Alligator sinensis

  129. American crocodile, Crocodylus acutus

  130. Orinoco crocodile, Crocodylus intermedius

  131. Philippine crocodile, Crocodylus mindorensis

  132. Mugger crocodile, Crocodylus palustris

  133. Cuban crocodile, Crocodylus rhombifer

  134. Siamese crocodile, Crocodylus siamensis

  135. Slender-snouted crocodile, Mecistops cataphractus

  136. Dwarf crocodile, Osteolaemus tetraspis

  137. Indian gharial, Gavialis gangeticus

  138. Sunda gharial, Tomistoma schlegelii


  1. Togo slippery frog, Conraua derooi

  2. Andean marsupial frog, Gastrotheca riobambae

  3. Big-eyed tree frog, Leptopelis vermiculatus

  4. Wyoming toad, Anaxyrus baxteri

  5. Houston toad, Anaxyrus houstonensis

  6. Rio Pescado stubfoot toad, Atelopus balios

  7. Limosa harlequin frog, Atelopus pulcher

  8. Panamanian golden frog, Atelopus zeteki

  9. Kihansi spray toad, Nectophrynoides asperginis

  10. Puerto Rican crested toad, Peltophryne lemur

  11. Granular poison frog, Oophaga granulifera

  12. Harlequin poison frog, Oophaga histrionica

  13. Lehmann’s poison frog, Oophaga lehmanni

  14. Golfodulcean poison frog, Phyllobates vittatus

  15. Golden poison frog, Phyllobates bicolor

  16. Terrible poison frog, Phyllobates terribilis

  17. Blessed poison frog, Ranitomeya benedicta

  18. Fantastic poison frog, Ranitomeya fantastica

  19. Summers’ poison frog, Ranitomeya summersi

  20. Lemur leaf frog, Agalychnis lemur

  21. Mountain chicken, Leptodactylus fallax

  22. Lake Titicaca water frog, Telmatobius culeus

  23. Pacific horned frog, Ceratophrys stolzmanni

  24. Golden mantella, Mantella aurantiaca

  25. Bernhard’s mantella, Mantella bernhardi

  26. Blue-legged mantella, Mantella expectata

  27. Madagascar painted mantella, Mantella madagascariensis

  28. Black-eared mantella, Mantella milotympanum

  29. Green mantella, Mantella viridis

  30. Mississippi gopher frog, Lithobates sevosus

  31. Chinese giant salamander, Andrias davidianus

  32. Anderson’s salamander, Ambystoma andersoni

  33. Axolotl, Ambystoma mexicanum

  34. Conant’s mushroom-tongue salamander, Bolitoglossa conanti

  35. Shenandoah salamander, Plethodon shenandoah

  36. Texas blind salamander, Eurycea rathbuni

  37. Barton Springs salamander, Eurycea sosorum

  38. Anderson’s newt, Echinotriton andersoni

  39. Kweichow crocodile newt, Tylototriton kweichowensis

  40. Black-spotted newt, Notophthalmus meridionalis

  41. Kaiser’s newt, Neurergus kaiseri

  42. Anatolian newt, Neurergus stauchii

  43. Brown newt, Cynops ensicauda

Good luck everyone! Let’s make this a fun year!
 
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Hmm. The problem I foresee with this challenge is that it’s going to take quite a bit of research in some cases for people to be able to ensure their lists are both complete and compliant with the rules, especially if species need to be searched individually for their status.

Can the terms of reference be narrowed further? And is there a single master list that contains all listed species in one place? Otherwise I fear it will prove to be more work than fun.
 
And aside from the research side, there’s also practical questions about just how big these lists would get and whether it’s manageable. There’s over 9000 eligible species.

Anybody whose first visit for the year was to San Diego would likely need to note down and then list at least 100, possibly 200 species from one zoo trip alone.
 
Hmm. The problem I foresee with this challenge is that it’s going to take quite a bit of research in some cases for people to be able to ensure their lists are both complete and compliant with the rules, especially if species need to be searched individually for their status.

Can the terms of reference be narrowed further? And is there a single master list that contains all listed species in one place? Otherwise I fear it will prove to be more work than fun.
I feel like IUCN is sufficiently narrow - all relevant data are contained with one, easy-to-use website. Furthermore, zoo information signage often indicate whether animals fall into the category, and if not, it is very quick and easy to search it up on IUCN. There is also a good chance that zoochatters will already know whether an animal qualifies - for example, we all know tigers and most common charismatic megafauna in zoos are endangered.

As far as I know, there’s no master list of species that could qualify, but if anyone knows where to find one, please link it!


And aside from the research side, there’s also practical questions about just how big these lists would get and whether it’s manageable. There’s over 9000 eligible species.

Anybody whose first visit for the year was to San Diego would likely need to note down and then list at least 100, possibly 200 species from one zoo trip alone.
Perhaps over 9,000 species are eligible, but the vast, vast majority of those are not kept in captivity in North America. I just briefly went through the most recent species list of SDZ on the forum (by @Anteaterman) and came up with less than 100 species that would qualify. It should be easily manageable and is a less daunting task than it would at first appear.
 
I understand your reasoning, but the issue isn’t how many eligible species are kept in captivity, but the sheer number of eligible species, which will require people to check virtually *everything*.

Say somebody visited San Diego, Chicago, Dallas and New York in the course of a year. They might go to 8-10 zoos and have a list of perhaps 500 or more species to grapple with. Maybe somebody wants to go to Shedd Aquarium and list everything they see, but do they then really want to spend a couple of hours plugging every species into a database to see if it counts? And then do it all again for Dallas World Aquarium?

The concept is great and with some further finessing I think it can work. But it’d be too much work for me as currently constituted. My suggestion? If you contained it to mammals, birds and reptiles, and to ‘critically endangered’ you’d still have 700+ species potentially eligible, and we could work together to generate a master list for reference.
 
Question about the status of giraffes. What taxonomy are we using here and will they still remain classified as Vulnerable (according to the IUCN)?
 
I understand your reasoning, but the issue isn’t how many eligible species are kept in captivity, but the sheer number of eligible species, which will require people to check virtually *everything*.

Say somebody visited San Diego, Chicago, Dallas and New York in the course of a year. They might go to 8-10 zoos and have a list of perhaps 500 or more species to grapple with. Maybe somebody wants to go to Shedd Aquarium and list everything they see, but do they then really want to spend a couple of hours plugging every species into a database to see if it counts? And then do it all again for Dallas World Aquarium?

The concept is great and with some further finessing I think it can work. But it’d be too much work for me as currently constituted. My suggestion? If you contained it to mammals, birds and reptiles, and to ‘critically endangered’ you’d still have 700+ species potentially eligible, and we could work together to generate a master list for reference.
I think still you are overestimating just how many species might qualify.

If we were to limit ourselves to what you suggest, then only the following would qualify:
27 mammal species
16 bird species
36 reptile species

- for a total of 79, barely 11% of all "eligible" species.

This is using my lifelist as a baseline, and while it is not an exhaustive list of all species kept in the country, it is pretty close when considering the vast number of public collections I have visited, including every major collection in every city you mention.

In your first hypothetical example of the San Diego Zoo, I can think of few species one would gain after getting their first 100 from there. Maybe another 100 total from zoos in the other cities, and a few fish here and there to add to the total from aquariums. Again, I am assuming the average ZooChatter already knows a thing or two about animals and whether they are endangered - not every animal, perhaps, but it's not at the scale where one would have to plug in every animal they saw into IUCN.
Question about the status of giraffes. What taxonomy are we using here and will they still remain classified as Vulnerable (according to the IUCN)?
We are strictly following IUCN, so for the purposes of this challenge we will be considering giraffes as one species and as Vulnerable. Should IUCN update throughout the year, new species may be counted, but people will not lose points they have already.
 
Well, I certainly don’t know off the top of my head the conservation status of each bird or reptile (let alone fish or amphibian) I see in a zoo, and I suspect most of the rest of us don’t either.

I get the sense you’re not contemplating any change, so I might as well leave it. It’s a bit of a personal disappointment for me, as this year was perhaps the only time I might ever participate in a North American challenge, but I’m not going to spend a holiday poring over IUCN red lists. Best of luck.
 
Well, I certainly don’t know off the top of my head the conservation status of each bird or reptile (let alone fish or amphibian) I see in a zoo, and I suspect most of the rest of us don’t either.
Perhaps not, but as I mentioned, most zoo signage (particularly in accreditted zoos in North America) already gives some indication of whether species would qualify. If one pays attention to this (as, I'd assume, most ZooChatters do), it's an easy starting point of what needs to be noted. As more and more ZooChatters post species here, the others can note qualifying species as well.
I get the sense you’re not contemplating any change, so I might as well leave it. It’s a bit of a personal disappointment for me, as this year was perhaps the only time I might ever participate in a North American challenge, but I’m not going to spend a holiday poring over IUCN red lists. Best of luck.
I'm not not contemplating change, but given you're the only one yet to raise an alternate suggestion (and having had several other ZooChatters, including several other active participants in yearly challenges, review the idea before posting) I would consider it unlikely. I feel narrowing the challenge much more will narrow it too much, failing to provide entertainment for a year. What I am most likely to do is remove fish from the list of accepted species, but part of why this challenge exists, in my opinion, is to grow people's knowledge of a certain group of animals - and fish are often overlooked.
 
I think including fish is the biggest single deal-breaker for me. It’s simply too hard. I’m inclined to say the same for amphibians. But whatever the way you choose to proceed, what you need is a heuristic that allows people to easily rule out species that definitely *don’t* count, and that’s where your 9000 potentially eligible species become a problem. I’m not convinced signage will be of a consistent enough quality to be sufficient.

My observation (and this comes from having had to tinker with categories myself for Cup purposes) is that your category needs to be intuitive, and that it shouldn’t require a specialist degree of knowledge to *be* intuitive. Playing the primate challenge a couple of years ago was great: I certainly couldn’t name any and all primate species before arriving at a zoo, but I knew a primate when I saw one!
 
I think including fish is the biggest single deal-breaker for me. It’s simply too hard. I’m inclined to say the same for amphibians. But whatever the way you choose to proceed, what you need is a heuristic that allows people to easily rule out species that definitely *don’t* count, and that’s where your 9000 potentially eligible species become a problem. I’m not convinced signage will be of a consistent enough quality to be sufficient.

My observation (and this comes from having had to tinker with categories myself for Cup purposes) is that your category needs to be intuitive, and that it shouldn’t require a specialist degree of knowledge to *be* intuitive. Playing the primate challenge a couple of years ago was great: I certainly couldn’t name any and all primate species before arriving at a zoo, but I knew a primate when I saw one!
You can always choose not to include fish - I suspect many members will do likewise, and in reality few species will be kept anyways - I suspect it will have little impact on any member's overall score.
 
Oh this will be very interesting. I feel bad about falling off last year's North America challenge but I'll try to keep up with it this year!

Also...the Shedd Aquarium could possibly give me a numbers boost if I count fish.
 
The challenge has potential, but I fear it is too big now and complicated now. I would certainly remove the fish which even for most zoo nerds is far from an intuitive group. There are so maby problems with IDing them and zoo signage for fish is often hopelessly inadequate. It is going to give problems and won't be any fun...

For the other groups at least signage and IDs are normally correct and up to date and these groups are at least somewhat intuitive or not hugely represented in zoos (in the Amphibian case).
 
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Additionally I think it would be very helpful to have a master list from the start, not just a link to a website but a google sheets or a dropbox file which lists all eligible species which are known to being kept in NA, that way it is far easier for everyone to look stuff up. It is a lot of work in the beginning, but will easily be worth it long term.

I also think you are overestimating how many people take notes in zoos, most zoochatters I have walked around with do not.
 
I agree with CGSwans and lintworm here. I don't know the conservation status of every animal I see, I really don't want to have to look up every reptile or fish I see at a major collection. I would very much like a list of eligible species, and even then I think it would be difficult for both me and other members. I would even recommend changing the challenge to something else.
 
I agree that the removal of fish would be helpful but I disagree with the notion of changing this challange because people do not want to google many of the species they see. Part of the reason I like this idea is because we tend to ignore the conservation status of many species around us, and when scouting out for this challange, I found there are a number of animals I never considered to be endangered or vulnerable, even species I had been in close proximity to for all my life.

I do not believe the lists of animals would be too long, considering the vast majority of birds and herps kept, the two groups other than fish making up the most diversity of species in zoos, are not endangered.

To address the annoyance of googling tons of things, I like the idea of a master list, and will be more than willing to help create one, but it would be impossible to create a complete one. Nobody has information regarding what animals are in every single North American collection, thus not every species would be reflected in it, so for the particularly rare species that wouldn't make it to the list due to nobody knowing they exist, people would still need to look them up.
 
Probably the only time I'll have the lead this year:D.

High Park Zoo - 01/01/2020

1. Mouflon Sheep Ovis orientalis
2.
Reindeer Rangifer tarandus (not entirely sure if this counts, so correct me if it doesn't)
 
Probably the only time I'll have the lead this year:D.

High Park Zoo - 01/01/2020

1. Mouflon Sheep Ovis orientalis
2.
Reindeer Rangifer tarandus (not entirely sure if this counts, so correct me if it doesn't)
Yep, you’re good so far!
 
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