ZooChat Challenge North America 2021

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Welcome to 2021 and the fourth iteration of ZooChat Challenge North America, my fellow Northern New World ZooChatters. As your newly designated game moderator... host... CEO?... whatever my title is now, thank all of you for coming together and participating in this longstanding Zoochat tradition.

Before we get into the nitty gritty of things, I’d like to give a shoutout to @Shorts for providing us with the template of this game many years ago. A round of applause is also in order to @jayjds2 for giving us west-of-the-ponders a game all our own and running it for three years.

Alright, down to brass tacks. As we’re all aware, our planet is in the midst of a very serious pandemic caused by an airborne illness. The pandemic has been especially chronic in the United States, where this new winter wave has re-closed some zoos and facilities that had been open since late spring and summer. The result of this on the challenge is that, while most of the region's major zoos *are* currently open, many/most indoor facilities remain shut and will remain so for a yet undetermined period of time.

With that in mind, I’ve decided to choose a category that will hopefully minimize the impact of these closed buildings on the challenge as well as invoke some camaraderie among our sorry ranks who bemoan how awesome zoo collections are in places none of us live. This category – a new one for Zoochat Challenge – is North American mammals. The boundaries should be fairly clear: species eligible to count for this year’s challenge will be any native species of mammal from the countries of Canada, Mexico, and the United States, seen in captivity within one of the same three countries. The taxonomy being used will be IUCN, as my predecessor did and as both the Europe and Global game moderators will also be using.

Before we get into the rules (pretty much the same as in years past), I’ll start out by saying that we will continue the fun rule introduced last year of bolding your lifers, in addition to a new one: italicize any species that you have also seen in the wild before. Failure to follow this rule will lead to immediate disqualification... of being considered a fun person. Gamewise, nothing bad will happen.

And now, the actual rules:

1. You have to actually see the animal, even if just for a second. Seeing the sign for the animal or simply visiting the collection that has it does not count.

2. Photographic proof is not required, though it of course always helps to keep track of what you’ve seen. Your word is your bond.

3. All entries must be presented in numbered list form, with scientific names included.

4. You have to see the animal via normal public access during normal public opening hours. Behind-the-scenes tours, whether offered by the zoo commercially or by a certain individual privately, do not count, nor do keeper-for-a-day programs or anything of the sort. Basically the species has to be seen as Joe or Sue Public would: from the public area of the zoo while it is open.

5. Any severely limited opening or private collections don't count for this challenge. Facilities that do regularly scheduled public tours are acceptable.

6. Only public zoological collections count. Animals seen at farms, exotic animal expos, or pet stores of any kind do not count. If a certain collection is confusing to you, please feel free to reply here with questions.

7. Report your progress on this thread as you go along. You do not need to re-type your list every time you update, quoting the previous post is sufficient. Include the collection you saw the species at and the date you visited it.

8. Only one subspecies per species can be counted. If you do not see a pure subspecies, it is still okay to count the species. Refer to the accepted taxonomy for any subspecies questions or elevations.

9. Similarly, refer to the accepted taxonomy (in this case, IUCN) for any species splits.

10. Domestic varietes do not count, the animal must be in a wild form.

11. Hybrid animals do not count. Any issues that may arise due to the taxonomy we are following or the genetic nature of the population will be discussed on a case-by-case basis.

12. Wild animals do not count, all species must be seen in captivity in North America under the conditions listed above. Additional Note: but don’t forget to italicize a species from captivity if you have also seen it in the wild before! :)

13. The rules, both generally and the details of them, are open for debate and potential change if considered problematic in any way. However, as the current game moderator I will have the final say in what the rules are and any changes to them.

14. Anyone caught severely violating the rules or participating in unsportsmanlike conduct in this challenge will be subject to disqualification and banning from future competitions. Don’t make me do this in my first year, please – just play the game properly and be nice to other people.

15. The winner will be the person who has seen the most eligible species by December 31, 2021. Please be sure to have all of your entries in by 11:59 PM HST (Hawaii Standard Time) on December 31, as any that are not in by then will not be counted.

The game will officially begin at 12:00 AM on January 1, 2021 of whatever time zone you are in, although obviously no zoos will be open yet so you’ll have to patiently wait several hours before one does. Any questions, comments, or concerns can be asked here or sent to me through PM.

And finally, the prize for the winner of the 2021 North American ZooChat Challenge will be...

Wait, there’s no prize? Why are we even doing this, then?
 
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Welcome to 2021 and the fourth iteration of ZooChat Challenge North America, my fellow Northern New World ZooChatters. As your newly designated game moderator... host... CEO?... whatever my title is now, thank all of you for coming together and participating in this longstanding Zoochat tradition.

Before we get into the nitty gritty of things, I’d like to give a shoutout to @Shorts for providing us with the template of this game many years ago. A round of applause is also in order to @jayjds2 for giving us west-of-the-ponders a game all our own and running it for three years.

Alright, down to brass tacks. As we’re all aware, our planet is in the midst of a very serious pandemic caused by an airborne illness. The pandemic has been especially chronic in the United States, where this new winter wave has re-closed some zoos and facilities that had been open since late spring and summer. The result of this on the challenge is that, while most of the region's major zoos *are* currently open, many/most indoor facilities remain shut and will remain so for a yet undetermined period of time.

With that in mind, I’ve decided to choose a category that will hopefully minimize the impact of these closed buildings on the challenge as well as invoke some camaraderie among our sorry ranks who bemoan how awesome zoo collections are in places none of us live. This category – a new one for Zoochat Challenge – is North American mammals. The boundaries should be fairly clear: species eligible to count for this year’s challenge will be any native species of mammal from the countries of Canada, Mexico, and the United States, seen in captivity within one of the same three countries. The taxonomy being used will be IUCN, as my predecessor did and as both the Europe and Global game moderators will also be using.

Before we get into the rules (pretty much the same as in years past), I’ll start out by saying that we will continue the fun rule introduced last year of bolding your lifers, in addition to a new one: italicize any species that you have also seen in the wild before. Failure to follow this rule will lead to immediate disqualification... of being considered a fun person. Gamewise, nothing bad will happen.

And now, the actual rules:

1. You have to actually see the animal, even if just for a second. Seeing the sign for the animal or simply visiting the collection that has it does not count.

2. Photographic proof is not required, though it of course always helps to keep track of what you’ve seen. Your word is your bond.

3. All entries must be presented in numbered list form, with scientific names included.

4. You have to see the animal via normal public access during normal public opening hours. Behind-the-scenes tours, whether offered by the zoo commercially or by a certain individual privately, do not count, nor do keeper-for-a-day programs or anything of the sort. Basically the species has to be seen as Joe or Sue Public would: from the public area of the zoo while it is open.

5. Any severely limited opening or private collections don't count for this challenge. Facilities that do regularly scheduled public tours are acceptable.

6. Only public zoological collections count. Animals seen at farms, exotic animal expos, or pet stores of any kind do not count. If a certain collection is confusing to you, please feel free to reply here with questions.

7. Report your progress on this thread as you go along. You do not need to re-type your list every time you update, quoting the previous post is sufficient. Include the collection you saw the species at and the date you visited it.

8. Only one subspecies per species can be counted. If you do not see a pure subspecies, it is still okay to count the species. Refer to the accepted taxonomy for any subspecies questions or elevations.

9. Similarly, refer to the accepted taxonomy (in this case, IUCN) for any species splits.

10. Domestic varietes do not count, the animal must be in a wild form.

11. Hybrid animals do not count. Any issues that may arise due to the taxonomy we are following or the genetic nature of the population will be discussed on a case-by-case basis.

12. Wild animals do not count, all species must be seen in captivity in North America under the conditions listed above. Additional Note: but don’t forget to italicize a species from captivity if you have also seen it in the wild before! :)

13. The rules, both generally and the details of them, are open for debate and potential change if considered problematic in any way. However, as the current game moderator I will have the final say in what the rules are and any changes to them.

14. Anyone caught severely violating the rules or participating in unsportsmanlike conduct in this challenge will be subject to disqualification and banning from future competitions. Don’t make me do this in my first year, please – just play the game properly and be nice to other people.

15. The winner will be the person who has seen the most eligible species by December 31, 2021. Please be sure to have all of your entries in by 11:59 PM HST (Hawaii Standard Time) on December 31, as any that are not in by then will not be counted.

The game will officially begin at 12:00 AM on January 1, 2021 of whatever time zone you are in, although obviously no zoos will be open yet so you’ll have to patiently wait several hours before one does. Any questions, comments, or concerns can be asked here or sent to me through PM.

And finally, the prize for the winner of the 2021 North American ZooChat Challenge will be...

Wait, there’s no prize? Why are we even doing this, then?
Great category for this year, although a difficult one for me personally based on what my local zoos have.
 
Does a species have to be native to a county I see it in? For example, if I saw a Collared Peccary at a zoo in Canada, would that count, or would I have to see it at a zoo in the US or Mexico for it to count towards my total?
 
Does a species have to be native to a country I see it in? For example, if I saw a Collared Peccary at a zoo in Canada, would that count, or would I have to see it at a zoo in the US or Mexico for it to count towards my total?

That would count. Any species native to the three countries can be seen in any of the three countries.
 
I’ll give it a try. :)

Cape May County Park & Zoo - 01/01/2021
  1. White-tailed Deer (Odocoileus virginianus)
  2. Elk (Cervus canadensis)
  3. American Bison (Bison bison)
  4. American Black Bear (Ursus americanus)
  5. Red Fox (Vulpes vulpes)
  6. North American River Otter (Lontra canadensis)
 
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I’ll give it a try. :)
  1. White-tailed Deer
  2. Elk
  3. American Bison
  4. American Black Bear
  5. Red Fox
  6. North American River Otter

At what zoo?

Glad you're participating @red river hog. When you post your updates, list 1) the zoo where you saw them, 2) the date you saw them, and 3) include the scientific/Latin names along with the common. All of this can be read in the rules ;) go ahead and edit your original post now with this information.

Example:

Houston Zoo - 01/01/2021

1. American Black Bear (Ursus americanus)

It should be game LORD

I quite like that one :p

Also, temporary exhibits count right?

Sure, as long as they meet the requirements listed above.
 
Glad you're participating @red river hog. When you post your updates, list 1) the zoo where you saw them, 2) the date you saw them, and 3) include the scientific/Latin names along with the common. All of this can be read in the rules ;) go ahead and edit your original post now with this information.

Example:

Houston Zoo - 01/01/2021

1. American Black Bear
Ah sorry. I read over the rules but must have missed some.
 
01/07/2021 - Sedgwick County Zoo

1. Black-tailed Prairie Dog (Cynomys ludovicianus)
2. American Bison (Bison bison bison)
3. Mountain Lion (Puma concolor)
4. Gray Wolf (Canis lupus baileyi)
5. American Elk (Cervus canadensis canadensis)
6. North American River Otter (Lontra canadensis)
7. White-tailed Deer (Odocoileus virginianus)
8. American Black Bear (Ursus americanus)
9. Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis)
 
One week into the Challenge. Before we go too much further in, I wanted to cover some stuff for clarification.

First, let’s all try and keep rule #7 in mind this year: update your progress regularly as you go. I saw a lot of people in the 2020 thread add in updates at the last minute after neglecting to post them earlier; I’d like to not have a mad dash at the end of next December or any confusion about who is still participating. I'll try and do a reminder every month or two.

Second: since I think all of this Challenge's previous participants have been from the U.S. and Canada, not all of you might be familiar with what species are from Mexico and therefore can be counted in your totals. There may also be some confusion about marine species, species from Arctic regions, species from offshore territories, etc. I'm not going to provide a master list (you can check any mammal species on IUCN yourself to see if it counts) but I *have* decided to add some helpful notes about what counts and what doesn't:

Introduced Species: Any species that arrived in the three countries due to human activity/influence does not count for the Challenge.
Examples: Brown Rat, House Mouse, Wild Boar, Coypu/Nutria

Hawaiian/Territorial Species: Any native mammal from Hawaii, Puerto Rico, or any other offshore state or territory counts.
Example: Hawaiian Monk Seal

Marine Species: Any native mammal found along the coast or territorial waters of the three countries counts. This includes cetaceans.
Examples: Beluga, Orca, Bottlenose Dolphin, Pacific White-sided Dolphin, West Indian Manatee, Walrus

Arctic Species: Polar bears count, the end.
Example Species: Polar Bear, Beluga, Muskox

Caribou/Reindeer: Someone asked me in private what the deal is with domestic reindeer versus wild caribou. While the rules state that domestics do not count and wild animals do count, I wouldn't trust myself to tell the two apart without prior knowledge of who holds them; therefore, I won't expect any of you to do so either. For that reason, here's what we're gonna do: if you see caribou/reindeer in a regular non-farm enclosure and not doing obviously domestic reindeer things (giving rides, being advertised for rides, being touched by guests, or having any riding or handling gear on), then you can count them. If you do see any of that or they are not in a regular non-farm enclosure, then they do not count. For now I think this is a good compromise, but open to other ideas.

There are other arguably domestic species or varieties of North American mammal, but unless I can be convinced that it’s obvious they can be told apart I’ll just give everyone the benefit of the doubt for the time being.

Mexican/American Southwest: Take a read over the list of mammals native to Mexico or the U.S. border states, because it's quite a lot.
Examples:
  • Almost any Neotropical bat species you may encounter: Jamaican Fruit Bat, Seba's Short-tailed Bat, Common Vampire Bat, Greater Bulldog Bat, Pallas's Long-tongued Bat, Mexican Free-tailed Bat, Pale Spear-nosed Bat, White-winged Vampire Bat... maybe others if you find them. You can refer to my bat thread for this information: Zoobat Collections (N. America)
  • Carnivores: Jaguar, Ocelot, Jaguarundi, and Margay all count. So do Tayra, White-nosed Coati, Ringtail, and Kinkajou.
  • Ungulates: Collared and White-lipped Peccary, Central American Red Brocket Deer, and Baird's Tapir all count.
  • Primates: Geoffroy's (or Mexican/Yucatan) Spider Monkey is the big one here, but there are also two howler species native to Mexico.
  • Other Mammals: Not going to go through all of the rodents and lagomorphs, but an interesting species you might find that counts is Lowland Paca.
 
I just happened upon this thread at the beginning of the year. I was reminded of it as I strolled around the Audubon Zoo on Sunday, and I thought it'd be fun to join in this year. With those clarifications, I'll go ahead and throw my hat in the ring!


Audubon Zoo (New Orleans, LA) -- 03 January, 2021:
  1. American black bear (Ursus americanus)
  2. Baird’s tapir (Tapirus bairdii)
  3. Black-handed spider monkey (Ateles geoffroyi)
  4. Bobcat (Lynx rufus)
  5. Cougar (Puma concolor)
  6. Jaguar (Panthera onca)
  7. North American river otter (Lontra canadensis)
  8. Northern raccoon (Procyon lotor)
  9. Ocelot (Leopardus pardalis)
  10. Red fox (Vulpes vulpes)
Unfortunately, the nocturnal house is currently closed due to COVID or I would have three additional species. The sea lions were also, unfortunately, not on display that day.
 
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Caribou/Reindeer: Someone asked me in private what the deal is with domestic reindeer versus wild caribou. While the rules state that domestics do not count and wild animals do count, I wouldn't trust myself to tell the two apart without prior knowledge of who holds them; therefore, I won't expect any of you to do so either. For that reason, here's what we're gonna do: if you see caribou/reindeer in a regular non-farm enclosure and not doing obviously domestic reindeer things (giving rides, being advertised for rides, being touched by guests, or having any riding or handling gear on), then you can count them. If you do see any of that or they are not in a regular non-farm enclosure, then they do not count. For now I think this is a good compromise, but open to other ideas.
I'm assuming you have a similar stance on pure vs impure bison?
 
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