Tombe
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They're at port lympeWhere are the other cubs now?
They're at port lympeWhere are the other cubs now?
found out some interesting news:-
Elephants are all being mixed together to try and breed them, all three cows are mixed together at night and tembo will allowed out on to the cows paddock soon. tembo was seen few weeks ago mating with zola.
The pygmy hippos are having a break from breeding due to the number of calves death but the outside area will be having an outdoor pool added once its rebuilt.
Sun bears seem to think that they are bother and sister more than mates hence why no cubs so far.
I have been wondering about the Sun Bears Srey Ya and Jo-Jo on the topic of them breeding since my obsession began so this explains some thoughts. I wonder if splitting them up and reuniting them like Chester did might positively effect the situation. On the topic of Sun Bears, despite having visited regularly for many years I don't remember seeing them in their on show indoor enclosure at all..... Is this the situation for anyone else?
Break up the pair and sent either one or other to another zoo in an exchange deal.Considering they were confiscated as cubs, I’m wondering how well socialised they’ve been. Have they been observed mating? If not, one or both could be behavioural non breeders.
They should still breed with each other if kept together permanently. Wellington Zoo imported a young (mother raised pair) in 1992 that lived together full time and mated every year from 1993 onwards. The female had five cubs between 1996-1998, but they all died. The primary reason was believed to be a lack of privacy, so she was given her own off display exhibit which led to success.
Even if successful mating occurs, Colchester would need to provide Srey Ya with total privacy i.e. isolating her from the male and closing her exhibit. At a stretch, the off display den might cut it.
From what it says in "The Story of Colchester Zoo", it sounds like the facilities in Bears of The Rising Sun should not be a barrier to cubs being successfully produced, however knowledge may have changed since then. Despite this I don't recall ever seeing the bears in their on show indoor enclosure. I am on my way to visiting now though so I might be able to find out about this and many other topics today.Considering they were confiscated as cubs, I’m wondering how well socialised they’ve been. Have they been observed mating? If not, one or both could be behavioural non breeders.
They should still breed with each other if kept together permanently. Wellington Zoo imported a young (mother raised pair) in 1992 that lived together full time and mated every year from 1993 onwards. The female had five cubs between 1996-1998, but they all died. The primary reason was believed to be a lack of privacy, so she was given her own off display exhibit which led to success.
Even if successful mating occurs, Colchester would need to provide Srey Ya with total privacy i.e. isolating her from the male and closing her exhibit. At a stretch, the off display den might cut it.
Could anyone tell me what became of the cheetah cubs born a couple years ago ?
I think I can confirm this, I saw all 4 females today,Colonel Tom is at Wingham Wildlife Park.
To my knowledge, the female cubs are still at Colchester.
Referring to the first point I think I remember visiting around the time when this post I am quoting was posted in August 2019, (obviously I didn't know about zoochat then despite having been obsessed with Colchester zoo possibly for about a year prior) I think I remember noticing this change with the elephants and mentioning it to my grandparents/parents. I hope more progression is made with the elephants as they (individuals, enclosure, history, culture) are probably my favourite group of animals in the zoo. I think the history of their group and enclosure is what made me love them after reading "The Story of Colchester Zoo". This is probably also why I liked Whipsnade so much when I visited in I think around May 2019- maybe Easter Holiday.
I mentioned in the "Colchester Zoo Elephant Program" thread (it might be useful for you to look at this) on the 18th October last year that when I was talking to the lady doing my Giraffe Keeper Shadowing experience she mentioned that they did have plans to get new elephants in/generally make progression with the breeding programme at Elephant Kingdom but these plans were halted by Covid. Talking about their current individuals, Zola only mated naturally and still lives with Tembo so I assume it was a close bond between the pair that resulted in Zola's 4 pregnancies. Tanya and Opal only had AI pregancies and 1 each. While Kito's father was Tembo as expected the father of Opal's calf was a bull named Jack (Jackson) who lives in the USA.2.5 years on from the elephant breeding attempts, no pregnancies have resulted and given the gaps since the cows last births, I don’t hold out any hope they will (Tanya - 2001, Opal - 2010, Zola - 2011).
Opal was their best chance, having given birth nine years prior to those introductions (albeit to a stillborn calf); while I don’t know why they thought Zola, who’s had four stillborn calves would experience success so many years later.
The African elephants are an iconic species at Colchester, but I think it’s time to accept the inevitable - whether that’s adding in new cows for breeding; or maintaining a non breeding herd as they’ve done by circumstance for the last decade.
I mentioned in the "Colchester Zoo Elephant Program" thread (it might be useful for you to look at this) on the 18th October last year that when I was talking to the lady doing my Giraffe Keeper Shadowing experience she mentioned that they did have plans to get new elephants in/generally make progression with the breeding programme at Elephant Kingdom but these plans were halted by Covid. Talking about their current individuals, Zola only mated naturally and still lives with Tembo so I assume it was a close bond between the pair that resulted in Zola's 4 pregnancies. Tanya and Opal only had AI pregancies and 1 each. While Kito's father was Tembo as expected the father of Opal's calf was a bull named Jack (Jackson) who lives in the USA.
I don't know if they have any plans set in stone yet, but best case scenario all of the current group will be able to stay here, or at least that is my opinion. Also something to bear in mind is that all 4 current individuals can't be together at the same time due to social issues.Now Covid has settled down the new African Elephants will probably arrive this year. I wonder what new arrivals would mean for the current inhabitants? I wouldn't integrate new arrivals with Zola she is aggressive,anti -social and dislikes young Elephants and Calfs. I think Zola should be introduced to Shaka at Noah's Ark Zoo Farm. Their both aggressive and have interaction problems. To back up my point Shaka killed M'Changa a young Bull at Noah's.
All the more reason the inaction in changing the group composition should have been broken years ago.I don't know if they have any plans set in stone yet, but best case scenario all of the current group will be able to stay here, or at least that is my opinion. Also something to bear in mind is that all 4 current individuals can't be together at the same time due to social issues.
I don't know if they have any plans set in stone yet, but best case scenario all of the current group will be able to stay here, or at least that is my opinion. Also something to bear in mind is that all 4 current individuals can't be together at the same time due to social issues.
I sincerely hope not, would be such a shame. It does seem as if the old Woburn generation are reaching that point.On a Colchester Zoo Facebook group (not official) someone mentioned that they could only see the male lion (Bailey) in the indoor area of Lion Rock when they visited today and they could not see the female (only Naja is/was remaining from when her and her sister Malika arrived with their cousin Bailey from Woburn in April 2010). Someone then replied and mentioned that they had asked and were told that the female (I believe Naja) passed away yesterday. I don't know for sure if Naja has died, but it would certainly not come as a surprise to me. If so R.I.P Naja.
On a Colchester Zoo Facebook group (not official) someone mentioned that they could only see the male lion (Bailey) in the indoor area of Lion Rock when they visited today and they could not see the female (only Naja is/was remaining from when her and her sister Malika arrived with their cousin Bailey from Woburn in April 2010). Someone then replied and mentioned that they had asked and were told that the female (I believe Naja) passed away yesterday. I don't know for sure if Naja has died, but it would certainly not come as a surprise to me. If so R.I.P Naja.
Edit: I am not on facebook, but it is on a public group called "Colchester Zoo" with 7.5k members for anyone interested.
Yes I've been on Facebook and it does state this although I'm going to wait for official confirmation from the zoo as its just a comment from a visitor . It would only leave the male Bailey if this is true. I don't know how old any of the trio were/are?