Melbourne Zoo Future of Melbourne Zoo 2023 (Speculation / Fantasy)

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Zorro said:
That I assume would have to be agreed open both by the EEP and the SSP
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Of course, but as mentioned, it’d benefit both. Their respective populations will be heading for minor inbreeding with limited founders and under this scheme, they could even submit a related pair each and benefit from the genetic diversity of an unrelated founder - returned to them via a calf.
 
Jambo said:
Knowing Melbourne's connections to Europe, I wouldn't be surprised if Melbourne could somehow obtain a pair from there. A pair from Europe would be very valuable; both to pair with calves from Taronga, and also to send some calves of a European pair to the US down the line in exchange for some more US individuals. I think that sounds like the right idea imo.:)
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Combine that with @Zoofan15 idea and it’s a plan
 
Zoofan15 said:
Combined with the fact it’d halve the demand on each region - they’d only have to supply one pair each instead of two, which is more reasonable if they’re as short of surplus as people say.
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Provided Europe are compensated fairly(not sure what would constitute but could be figured out with relative ease) it benefits all parties imo
 
@PaddyRickMFZ

Believe Bonobo much like Okapi have eluded Australia throughout history so far (in my fantasy historical Brisbane Zoo there were Bonobo there since the 60s/70s and Okapi since the mid to late 90s, but this is not the forum for that talk I understand lol).

Have noticed visiting zoos with many different family members and friends that Siamangs are exceptionally popular with visitors..other Gibbons too sure, but there seems to be something about Siamangs that intrigue even the less animal-centric visitors. Believe they may have been mistaken for a 'Chimp' by some people from time to time though don't have any proof of that last statement (but could imagine it may of happened).
 
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PaddyRickMFZ said:
Provided Europe are compensated fairly(not sure what would constitute but could be figured out with relative ease) it benefits all parties imo
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New Zealand could supply them with Tuatara; or even Sumatran tiger cubs from Auckland’s pair. The European population would benefit from North American genes and receiving New Zealand bred cubs would be easier.
 
steveroberts said:
Believe Bonobo much like Okapi have eluded Australia throughout history so far (in my fantasy historical Brisbane Zoo there were Bonobo there since the 60s/70s and Okapi since the mid to late 90s lol, but this is not the forum for that talk I understand lol).
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Bonobo are rare in captivity in general; so i'd assume that would explain why they've never made it across the Indian/Pacific oceans.
 
steveroberts said:
@PaddyRickMFZ

Believe Bonobo much like Okapi have eluded Australia throughout history so far (in my fantasy historical Brisbane Zoo there were Bonobo there since the 60s/70s and Okapi since the mid to late 90s, but this is not the forum for that talk I understand lol).
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Figured that out now, but there has to be some substance to why I thought there was one. As in, I vividly remember seeing one but it’s impossible, so idek anymore
 
steveroberts said:
@PaddyRickMFZ

Believe Bonobo much like Okapi have eluded Australia throughout history so far (in my fantasy historical Brisbane Zoo there were Bonobo there since the 60s/70s and Okapi since the mid to late 90s, but this is not the forum for that talk I understand lol).
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I can only wonder how things could have panned out had Australasian zoos imported Okapi via animal dealers in the early 20th Century.
 
PaddyRickMFZ said:
And New Zealand are given platypus you said?
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Here's an easier explanation for what's been suggested.

US: Receive - offspring of European Okapi pair, and Platypus from Australia; Send - Pair of Okapi
Europe: Receive - offspring of US Okapi pair, and Tuatara from NZ; Send - Pair of Okapi
Australia: Receive - two pairs of Okapi (From US and Europe); Send - Platypus to US and NZ
NZ: Receive - Platypus from Australia; Send - Tuatara to NZ; also *temporarily quarantine Okapi for Australia*

Clearly both the SSP and EEP are clearly benefiting from this major deal.
 
Zoofan15 said:
I can only wonder how things could have panned out had Australasian zoos imported Okapi via animal dealers in the early 20th Century.
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Agree. Could imagine given the spartan layout of our zoos back then that perhaps it would be imported individuals towards the end of the animal dealer era that ended up being the first ones to of bred in captivity here. Or if there were births earlier perhaps may not of been managed too well or infants might not of made it too long in life. Can you also sort of envision if we had decades of history of Okapi in Australia and New Zealand that the stud book in terms of a genealogy that led to a hypothetical present would likely of begun with individuals arriving in the '50s & '60s perhaps?
 
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