Zoos That Have Had All Species of a Type of Animal

Neil chace said:
I would not be surprised if you could find some zoos that even today are keeping all five Panthera species.
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Just to be clear, there are 6 species in Panthera, of which no zoo has all 6....
Parc des Felins somewhat outdoes every other zoo in the world on this count, with a stunning 13 Panthera taxa:

Amur leopard
Asiatic lion
Barbary lion
Indochinese clouded leopard
Jaguar
Malayan tiger
Persian leopard
Siberian tiger
Snow leopard
Southeast African lion
Southwest African lion
Sri Lankan leopard
Sumatran tiger.

Still not all six species though...


Animals R AMAZING! said:
SDZ does and also houses clouded leopard, mountain lion, and cheetah if you count those as "big cats."
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Not going to get into this discussion again, but clouded leopards are objectively big cats and mountain lions and cheetahs are absolutely not ;).
 
amur leopard said:
Just to be clear, there are 6 species in Panthera, of which no zoo has all 6....
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Afraid not :p

Panthera leo
Panthera pardus
Panthera tigris
Panthera onca
Panthera uncia

The two species of Clouded Leopard - although indisputably big cats, falling as they do into Pantherinae, are within the genus Neofelis.

That said, given PdF has Mainland Clouded Leopard I am somewhat puzzled as to which species you view as the mystery sixth not held by the collection!
 
TeaLovingDave said:
The two species of Clouded Leopard - although indisputably big cats, falling as they do into Pantherinae, are within the genus Neofelis.
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Oof, had an absolute shocker there, my bad. I read Panthera and took in Pantherinae for some reason :oops:
But even then, I would be wrong…
Apologies all.

TeaLovingDave said:
That said, given PdF has Mainland Clouded Leopard I am somewhat puzzled as to which species you view as the mystery sixth not held by the collection!
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I was thinking Sunda but forgot uncia.

TinoPup said:
What's your rationale for this?
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Big cats are by definition Pantherinae, at least from my perspective.
 
Torgos said:
London Zoo had all three cassowaries in 1987. Still the only Northern I've ever seen.
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I remember both a Bennett's (dwarf) cassowary and a single-wattled (northern) cassowary in London Zoo's Stork & Ostrich House during this time period but don't think there was a double-wattled (southern) cassowary there too. (Although the ZSL did have double-wattled cassowaries at Whipsnade.)

The London Zoo's single-wattled cassowary left the collection in 1988.
 
Tim May said:
I remember both a Bennett's (dwarf) cassowary and a single-wattled (northern) cassowary in London Zoo's Stork & Ostrich House during this time period but don't think there was a double-wattled (southern) cassowary there too. (Although the ZSL did have double-wattled cassowaries at Whipsnade.)

The London Zoo's single-wattled cassowary left the collection in 1988.
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Huh. Really? Happy to be wrong! I could have sworn they were all in a row and black-necked stork further down the line. I came across my slide of the Bennett's the other day. Not inclined to grovel through the rest of my slides to find which file it slipped from. Thanks for putting me right!
 
MonkeyBat said:
Around ten years ago or so, Fort Worth held all four species of great apes (besides humans of course)
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That is of course the problem with this sort of claim, there are in fact currently eight recognized species of great ape, including humans.

It would also be useful to clarify what you mean by "type". Are you referring to a level of taxa, for instance Family or Order?
 
A lot of people are correcting the number of great ape species but nobody has pointed out a more scientifically accurate way to describe the intention of the original statement. Would it be accurate to say Saint Louis Zoo (for example) holds all three tribes of non-human ape? I am traditionally the kind of person who has used 'species' in the taxonomically inaccurate casual sense so genuinely asking to avoid this mistake.
 
JVM said:
A lot of people are correcting the number of great ape species but nobody has pointed out a more scientifically accurate way to describe the intention of the original statement. Would it be accurate to say Saint Louis Zoo (for example) holds all three tribes of non-human ape? I am traditionally the kind of person who has used 'species' in the taxonomically inaccurate casual sense so genuinely asking to avoid this mistake.
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If you're counting "three" of them, then genera would presumably be accurate here (pongo, gorilla, pan). But given that the original statement said "four", I can only assume they meant one of the orangutans, western gorilla, chimpanzee, and bonobo. I notice semi-frequently that people want to give chimpanzees and bonobo more individual "weight" when listing apes than they would for Sumatran and Bornean orangutans, for example, and I can only assume it's because of their names: they're Animal A and Animal B, not Adjective A Animal and Adjective B Animal, if that makes sense.

So in short, if you're describing gorilla, orangutan, and pan, "genera" would be accurate, but if you're trying to split pan (and only pan) I don't think there's a reasonably accurate term to use.
 
And in saying all that, I forgot to mention what I actually entered this thread for: not exactly a zoo, but Swan Lake Iris Gardens is a public park in Sumter, South Carolina that keeps every species of swan, including the not-a-swan coscoroba swan, as well as both sides of a potentially split tundra swan. Supposedly it's the only park, and indeed perhaps only place in the world that keeps every swan species.
 
JVM said:
A lot of people are correcting the number of great ape species but nobody has pointed out a more scientifically accurate way to describe the intention of the original statement. Would it be accurate to say Saint Louis Zoo (for example) holds all three tribes of non-human ape? I am traditionally the kind of person who has used 'species' in the taxonomically inaccurate casual sense so genuinely asking to avoid this mistake.
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biggest_dreamer said:
If you're counting "three" of them, then genera would presumably be accurate here (pongo, gorilla, pan). But given that the original statement said "four", I can only assume they meant one of the orangutans, western gorilla, chimpanzee, and bonobo. I notice semi-frequently that people want to give chimpanzees and bonobo more individual "weight" when listing apes than they would for Sumatran and Bornean orangutans, for example, and I can only assume it's because of their names: they're Animal A and Animal B, not Adjective A Animal and Adjective B Animal, if that makes sense.

So in short, if you're describing gorilla, orangutan, and pan, "genera" would be accurate, but if you're trying to split pan (and only pan) I don't think there's a reasonably accurate term to use.
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I suppose you could say every species of great ape that was recognized in 1995 or prior :D
 
Artis Zoo Amsterdam had all 4 species of Lorids at the same time in the 1960s. All except potto bred.
I suppose this is also true for London Zoo in the same period.

Rotterdam, Wassenaar and Paignton might also have had all 4 lorids species at the same time.
 
Il gattopardo said:
Artis Zoo Amsterdam had all 4 species of Lorids at the same time in the 1960s. All except potto bred.
I suppose this is also true for London Zoo in the same period.

Rotterdam, Wassenaar and Paignton might also have had all 4 lorids species at the same time.
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I assume you mean genera? Considering there is a lot more than 4 species of lorid ;). There are five genera, however Xanthonycticebus was only named last year.
 
Fallax said:
I assume you mean genera? Considering there is a lot more than 4 species of lorid ;). There are five genera, however Xanthonycticebus was only named last year.
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Thank you! I also learnd that it is lorid (not lorids) ;)
So forget the whole post: none of the above mentioned zoos had the five genera at the same time.
 
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