I'm pretty sure they are. They are the same animals that arrived in 2018, right? They never got any males for what I remember.
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The adult ostrich is a female South African ostrich? They do not have a male North African ostrich yet?
It is sad that a genetically important white rhino bull left no progeny. He was behaviorally compromised and unfit to breed. I do hope they took genetic samples of him, including semen for gene banking.
It seems 2023 has been a year of change with at least than 2 other elderly white rhino bulls passing on in Espagna (Barcelona, Madrid Safari).NB: The zoos of Cabarceno and Madrid have also lost their adult bull.
TBH: It would be high time that proven bulls or new young adult bulls (8-10 years old) were acquired by some zoos to kick start breeding (Cabarceno, Madrid Zoo, Terra Natura Murcia, Tabernas, Bioparco Valencia).
Exactly.
The last time i went a keeper was talking about the addaxes and she said that she was not able to know if the addax was the female or the male, that she can only differenciate them if them were together so I understood they had brought a male but lately the same keeper got confused saying that a duiker was a damma Gazelle cub... Maybe she was wrong with the addaxes too.
Totally, by the way, the pigmy hippos are no getting a male by a long time right now, something bad are they doing...
I see this sort of sentiment pop up from time to time across the forums where members seem disappointed that their local zoo does not hold breeding groups of all of the species it holds. I think that it is important to remember that in a world of cooperatively managed programs for many species, not every zoo that houses a particular species is going to be a breeding facility for that species. If this were the case, we would very quickly see a situation where populations are over carrying capacity for number of holders available, which can create a whole host of other problems and halt breeding all together. Zoos that serve as holders of single-sex, surplus groups are just as important to programs as the zoos that are breeding institutions. It could very well just be that Valencia has been designated as a surplus holder of many of these species.
Very much agree. In addition, I don't consider some of the enclosures at Valencia very suitable to breed some of the species we discussed.
I, of course, have never visited Valencia; however, based on the photos I have seen, I would be inclined to agree...
Which ones do you refer to?
Addaxes and pygmy hippos. Would love if they started breeding drills again though.
Maybe if they move the sitatungas pigmy hippos would have more space, I agree the habitat is too busy for them.
I think the addaxes are good, at least no worse than other species.
There is no drill male???
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Recently 2 Northern warthogs (Phacochoerus africanus africanus) were born, a zoo first breeding for Valencia!
Source:
Instagram of Bioparc Valencia (20/12/2023)
This is also my 3000th post on this forum!
Congrats for the 3000 posts!!! I saw the video, and there is one thing that i didn't understand well.
Do the new couple of warthogs go outside during the day?? i don't mean right now, they are with their cubs, but before they were outside at some part of the day??? i usually go in the afternoons and the ones on the exhibit are always the old ones
Do the new couple of warthogs go outside during the day?? i don't mean right now, they are with their cubs, but before they were outside at some part of the day??? i usually go in the afternoons and the ones on the exhibit are always the old ones
There are 1.3 I think. 4 in total. Wish they get some offspring by the way.A new "pair" (one female/ one male) of white rhinos has come to Bioparc Valencia.
There are 1,4 right now.
I known, the video it's in Spanish.
The bull is male Martin / Sato (the old and proven breeding bull at Serengeti - Hodenhagen) and a cow that presenter seems to have pronounced slightly different - she should be 5 years of age and hailing from France -. I have a feeling it is the 2018 born cow Kwanza from Lisieux Zoo.
This means the zoo now has 1.3:
M Martin / Sato (b. 1993 - proven)
F Nombula (b. 2004 and wildcaught)
F Amy (b. 2018, cb. Kolmarden)
F Kwanza (b. 2018 cb. Lisieux)
The fact that they have acquired a proven bull will significantly increase chances for succesful mating and first calves in Bioparco Valencia.
It is rather sad that the park kept on a behavioral non-breeder like Cirillo for so long. Admittedly, he was quite valuable genetically ... but I really do think there would have been other means to get his genes represented and much earlier switch to a foolproof bull that has a track record of siring calves (his last calves were in January, February and April 2021 at Serengetipark Hodenhagen.
POST SCRIPTUM: Not too long ago the keeper's Association and AIZA had an elephant and rhino symposium locally and the flurry of late of activity with rhino transfers to Spain seems to in part have been preplanned for co-inciding close on this meeting.
The recent deaths of various bulls like Cirillo and Serrano at Safari de Madrid and (I think Sagan) at Cabarceno are necessicating a fresh approach to rhino groups in Spain and provide an opportunity to set up several breeding groups with proven sire. Also, the M/F groups at Tabernas and Terra Natura Murcia are currently not working.
Bull Cosme needs to be transferred out of his herd at Cabarceno (currently F Nora at 30 and F as he will not breed with his mother present there. Further, his mother is probably not cycling given the fact her offspring is still there ... Also, the old females Nora and Mayaji were preventing the former bull from coming close to them (so he was effectively being dominanted by the females).
SOURCE: Cabarceno - move
https://eldiariocantabria.publico.e...te-blanco-cabarceno/20230208145846130335.html
Well, it's job of the EEP to change bulls, not of the parc. However, I don't think it's a good choice to start breeding with Martin in case that this is really wanted. He might genetically be the least interesting bull in Europe after having produced enough offspring in Hodenhagen plus being the son of two mass breeders. There are many more valuable bulls around who have already bred.