ZooChat Challenge Global 2024

Use the expert search filter for lagomorphs and see for yourself. You’re half-right, I accidentally counted Lepus europaeus twice, but there’s still a total of five.

I’m aware of the possible source of over-counts, which is why I’m allowing for errors, like the above.
Lepus europeaus, Lepus timidus, Oryctolagus cuniculus, and I missed L. corsicanus because I didn't realise they were splitting it. Pikas don't count. So there are four listed there.

Anyway, the point is only frogs have a large number of species amongst the given groups.
 
Anyway, setting questions of scope aside for a moment, I’ll just take a day one clubhouse lead, if I may.

Healesville Sanctuary - 1/1/2024

Marsupials

  1. Parma wallaby - Notamacropus parma
  2. Western grey kangaroo - Macropus fuligonosus
  3. Red kangaroo - Osphranter rufus
  4. Feathertail glider - Acrobates pygmaeus (please confirm eligibility - it’s not a Petaurus species but the same logic of including them applies equally to Acrobates, so I’m tentatively including it).
  5. Long-nosed potoroo - Potorous tridactylus
  6. Red-necked wallaby - Notamacropus rufogriseus
  7. Brush-tailed rock-wallaby - Petrogale penicillata
  8. Swamp wallaby - Wallabia bicolor
  9. Red-bellied pademelon - Thylogale billardierii
  10. Goodfellow’s tree kangaroo - Dendrolagus goodfellowi
Amphibians

1. White-lipped tree frog - Litoria infrafrenata

For simplicity, as my list might get quite long by mid-year, I’m going to break up the list by taxonomic group and then note an overall total: 11.
 
It seems fairly obvious that amphibians are *way* over-weighted. Apart from frogs, it’s about 150 species in the ZTL area, excluding the inverts which aren’t listed on ZTL. That’s not too bad, but the problem is that they’re mostly going to be quite uncommon species.

So we kind of have the worst of both worlds, as currently constructed. One overwhelmingly large category, and a grab-bag of others that will mostly come as a couple of species here and there.

I’ll repeat my suggestion to choose a smaller subset of frog families. Otherwise, we’re going to do a *lot* of book-keeping to keep track of what frogs have and haven’t been listed. Then, if we added prosimians and (I would argue at least New World) monkeys I think it’s pretty well balanced in gameplay terms.
I'm not sure reducing which anurans count would help anything, at the very least not help with book-keeping. Then, instead of having to keep track of which anurans have or haven't been seen, we'd have to also figure out what does or does not count for this challenge. Given that frog taxonomy isn't a specialty of a lot of zoochatters, I'd imagine there being a lot of problems with people posting species that technically don't count, making there be more work "correcting" this thread. Furthermore, while yes there are a lot of frog species in zoos, most of these species aren't exactly common in zoos. A few years ago, there was a global challenge of amphibians and only a very small number of the top participants narrowly made it over the 100 mark- and that includes amphibians that don't count here (e.g., salamanders). If I was to make a random guess, closer to 75 species would be the max anyone hits for anurans, which is certainly what I'd consider a reasonable number. The bigger issue is that there isn't much else that counts other than the anurans.
 
Honestly, I would have legit considered including primates - specifically, lemurs (especially typical lemurs and sifakas, although I think all could still work), bushbabies and tarsiers, all three families being very capable jumpers. You could also make a point for a few monkeys, such as colobuses and those in the marmoset and tamarin family, but lemurs, bushbabies and tarsiers would have been my personal picks for primate reps.

In the meantime, here's my first batch of animals.

--Banham Zoo (1/1/2024)--
1. Red Kangaroo (Osphranter rufus)
2. Parma Wallaby (Notamacropus parma)
3. Amur Tiger (Panthera tigris)
4. Sri Lankan Leopard (Panthera pardis)
5. Snow Leopard (Panthera uncia)
6. Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus)
7. Pallas' Cat (Otocolobus manul)
8. Margay (Leopardus wiedii)
9. African Penguin (Spheniscus demersus)
 
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My first zoo visit of the year, a small one so I was only able to mark 2 species down but a start nonetheless.
Bergen County Zoo 1.1
1) Puerto Rican Crested Toad (Peltophryne lemur)
2) Cougar (Puma concolor)
 
Prague Zoo; Czech republic (1.1.2024)

I visited Prague Zoo today and it was way too much crowded today. I don't like crowds so I hid in the quieter parts of the zoo. Only few species that count.

01/ Malgasy Giant Jumping Rat / Hypogeomys antimena / křeček velký
02/ Chinese Goral / Naemorhedus goral / goarl sečuánský
03/ Blue Sheep / Pseudois nayaur / nahur modrý
 
Let's get this challenge started!

Toronto Zoo: 1 January 2024
1.Himalayan tahr (Hemitragus jemlahicus)
2. Clouded leopard (Neofelis nebulosa)
3. Tiger (Panthera tigris)
4. Solomon Island leaf frog (Cornufer guentheri)
5. White's tree frog (Ranoidea [Litoria] caerulea)
6. Snow leopard (Panthera uncia)
7. West Caucasian tur (Capra caucasica)
 
This is a very interesting concept for a challenge, and I will be participating, but I do echo the concerns of others about the scope of the challenge and some of the more obvious exclusions that should count and would make the game more broadly playable. To provide an example not yet broached — is there a reason you chose to only include Gazella gazelles for this challenge? In North America, this genus only makes up two of the seven gazelle species present in public collections.
 
Hey all, a few (maybe more) changes:

First off, I think it'd be appropriate to address what I said earlier about workload and bookkeeping for the challenge. Clearly, there was oversight on how much depth was put into the challenge- therefore leading me to overestimate how much work I'd be willing to put in.

I also would like to to clarify that I am willing to, and will add some species to the challenge. I've read the suggestions that you all have posted, and they're obviously all great. I'm more than willing- my apologies that I didn't come across that way earlier.

There is something I'd like to add on besides the species. I'm adopting @Coelacanth18's deadline rule from the North America challenge, which is just a modification of our global rule #7: There is no official deadline to join; however, anyone who joins the game after May 31 can only count eligible species from their two most recent zoo visits.

After (more) careful deliberation, I've decided to make the following additions. To answer all the "out of curiosity" and "why didn't you"- again (and I apologize for it), oversight and lack of thoroughness. Thank you all for your input- it won't be like this next year. ;)

Mammals:
  • Family Hypsiprymnodontidae (Rat kangaroo)
  • Family Potoroidae (Bettongs and potoroos)
  • Family Equidae (Horses and relatives)
  • Family Cervidae (Deer)
  • Subamily Antilopinae (the rest of Gazelles and co.)
  • Family Cheirogaleidae (Mouse, giant mouse, dwarf and fork-marked lemurs)
  • Family Lepilemuridae (not in captivity afaik but just in case I suppose)
  • Family Lemuridae (Bamboo, true, and ruffed lemurs)
  • Family Indriidae (Woolly lemurs, sifakas, and indri)
  • Family Daubentoniidae (Aye-aye)
  • Family Galagidae (Galagos)
  • Family Tarsiidae (Tarsiers)
  • Family Callictrichidae (Marmosets and tamarins)
  • Family Cebidae (Squirrel monkeys and capuchins)
  • Family Aotidae (Night monkeys)
  • Family Pithecidae (Titis, sakis, and uakaris)
  • Family Atelidae (Howlers and co.)
  • Family Cercopithecidae (Old World Monkeys)

    In short, some marsupials, equids, deer, Antilopinae, and all primates except apes and the loris/potto/agwantibo group were added.
Reptiles:
  • Order Crocodilia (Crocodiles and alligators)
If a moderator could edit these changes in, it'd be greatly appreciated.

@CGSwans, @CrashMegaraptor, @KiwiBirb, @Marhi, @Chlidonias, @TheGerenuk - If it's not too much trouble, you're obviously able to update your lists to include the additions.

Happy zoo-ing in the new year! :)
Interesting idea of a challenge, I doubt I'll see much that counts, but it'll be interesting to give it a try anyways. I'm also intrigued by this challenge including invertebrates, something I can't remember any other zoo chat challenge including. Given that crickets are amongst the inverts that count, though, leads me to wonder: can we include feeder insects (of valid species) seen inside reptile exhibits at zoos? Or are these not considered captive wildlife for purposes of this challenge?
Technically, I suppose so? The issue here would be that, as with many inverts, it's generally hard without signage to know for sure what species you're seeing. If it's 100% certain and signed then I don't have a problem with it. But I'm not sure how that goes with feeder crickets specifically.
 
In that case:

Wellington Zoo (NZ), 2 January

Macropods:
1) Swamp Wallaby
2) Eastern Grey Kangaroo

Primates:
1) Golden Lion Tamarin
2) Pigmy Marmoset
3) Cottontop Tamarin
4) Black-capped Capuchin
5) Black and White Ruffed Lemur
6) Bolivian Squirrel Monkey
7) Geoffroy's Spider Monkey

Felidae:
1) Lion
2) Tiger
3) Snow Leopard

Anurans:
1) Golden Bell Frog Litoria aurea


Total: 13 species
 
With these additions to the list, I have some species to add from the Toronto Zoo.

8. False gharial (Tomistoma schlegelii)
9. Przewalski's horse (Equus ferus przewalkskii)
 
My first zoo visit of the year, a small one so I was only able to mark 2 species down but a start nonetheless.
Bergen County Zoo 1.1
1) Puerto Rican Crested Toad (Peltophryne lemur)
2) Cougar (Puma concolor)
Well in that case, that adds 3 new additions I saw yesterday. I do really like these new additions to the challenge and make it a lot more fun and a lot less complicated!
3) Golden Lion Tamarin (Leontopithecus rosalia)
4) Goeldi’s Monkey (Callimico goeldii)
5) Cotton Top Tamarin (Saguinus oedipus)
 
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Ok, first effort based on what has now been posted as qualifying!
Hamerton 1 January 2024
1 Swamp Wallaby
2 Red necked wallaby
3 Parma Wallaby
4 Squirrel Glider
5 long nosed pottoroo
6 Oncilla
7 Canadian Lynx
8 Rusty spotted cat
9 Tiger
10 Serval
11 Cheetah
12 Collared Lemur
13 Ring-tailed Lemur
14 Black & White Ruffed Lemur
15 Lesser Spot nosed Guenon
16 Golden handed Tamarin
17 Red-bellied Tamarin
18 Goeldi's Monkey
19 Southern Pudu
20 Kirk's Dik Dik

A few missed but I will be back in a few weeks
 
A sunny January day in San Diego to kick off the new year and the new challenge!

San Diego Zoo (San Diego, CA) - 02 January, 2024:
Equidae:
1. Grevy’s zebra (Equus grevyi)
2. Plains zebra (Equus quagga)

Antilopinae:
3. Gerenuk (Litocranius walleri)
4. Kirk’s dik-dik (Madoqua kirkii)
5. Slender-horned gazelle (Gazella leptoceros)
6. Soemmerring’s gazelle (Nanger soemmerringii)
7. Speke’s gazelle (Gazella spekei)

Caprinae:
8. Takin (Budorcas taxicolor)

Felidae:
9. Caracal (Caracal caracal)
10. Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus)
11. Cougar (Puma concolor)
12. Jaguar (Panthera onca)
13. Leopard (Panthera pardus)
14. Lion (Panthera leo)
15. Tiger (Panthera tigris)
16. Serval (Leptailurus serval)
17. Snow leopard (Panthera uncia)

Lemuridae:
18. Blue-eyed black lemur (Eulemur flavifrons)
19. Collared brown lemur (Eulemur collaris)
20. Red-ruffed lemur (Varecia rubra)
21. Ring-tailed lemur (Lemur catta)

Indriidae:
22. Coquerel’s sifaka (Propithecus coquereli)

Cebidae:
23. Guianan squirrel monkey (Saimiri sciureus)

Cercopithecidae:
24. Allen’s swamp monkey (Allenopithecus nigroviridis)
25. Angolan colobus (Colobus angolensis)
26. Black crested mangabey (Lophocebus aterrimus)
27. Francois’s langur (Trachypithecus francoisi)
28. Gelada (Theropithecus gelada)
29. Hamadryas baboon (Papio hamadryas)
30. Lesser spot-nosed guenon (Cercopithecus petaurista)
31. Lion-tailed macaque (Macaca silenus)
32. Mandrill (Mandrillus sphinx)
33. Red-tailed guenon (Cercopithecus ascanius)
34. Vervet monkey (Chlorocebus pygerythrus)
35. Silvery lutung (Trachypithecus cristatus)

Sphenisciformes:
36. African penguin (Spheniscus demersus)

Crocodilia:
37. Chinese alligator (Alligator sinensis)
38. Dwarf caiman (Paleosuchus palpebrosus)
39. Gharial (Gavialis gangeticus)
40. Siamese crocodile (Crocodylus siamensis)
41. Slender-snouted crocodile (Mecistops cataphractus)
42. West African dwarf crocodile (Osteolaemus tetraspis)

Anura:
43. Amazon milky tree frog (Trachycephalus resinifictrix)
44. Asian giant toad (Phrynoidis asper)
45. Bornean eared frog (Polypedates otilophus)
46. Dyeing poison dart frog (Dendrobates tinctorius)
47. Green-and-black poison dart frog (Dendrobates auratus)
48. Lake Titicaca water frog (Telmatobius culeus)
49. Panamanian golden frog (Atelopus zateki)
50. Sambava tomato frog (Dyscophus guineti)
51. Splendid tree frog (Cruziohyla calcarifer)
52. Waxy monkey frog (Phyllomedusa sauvagii)

Orthoptera:
53. Dragon-headed katydid (Lesina intermedia)
54. Giant long-legged katydid (Macrolyristes corporalis)
55. Eastern lubber grasshopper (Romalea microptera)
56. Malaysian bush-cricket (Mecopoda elongata)
57. Oblong-winged katydid (Amblycorypha oblongifolia)
58. Rhinoceros katydid (Copiphora rhinoceros)
 
First visit of the year:

ZSL London Zoo 03/01/24

1. Red-faced black spider monkey, Ateles paniscus
2. Goeldi's monkey, Callimico goeldi
3. White naped mangabey, Cercocebus lunulatus
4. Diana monkey, Cercopithecus diana
5. Mantled guereza, Colobus guereza
6. Aye-aye, Daubentonia madagascariensis
7. Plains zebra, Equus quagga
8. Moholi bushbaby, Galago moholi
9. Senegal bushbaby, Galago senegalensis
10. Alaotran gentle lemur, Hapalemur alaotrensis
11. Chinese water deer, Hydropotes inermis
12. Malagasy jumping rat, Hypogeomys antimena
13. Ring tailed lemur, Lemur catta
14. Golden headed lion tamarin, Leontopithecus chrysomelas
15. Sulawesi crested macaque, Macaca nigra
16. Grey mouse lemur, Microcebus murinus
17. Red necked wallaby, Notamacropus rufogriseus
18. Lion, Panthera leo
19. Tiger, Panthera tigris
20. White faced saki, Pithecia pithecia
21. Coppery titi, Plecturocebus cupreus
22. Bolivian squirrel monkey, Saimiri boliviensis
23. Grey langur, Semnopithecus entellus
24. Humboldt penguin, Spheniscus humboldti
25. Desert locust, Schistocerca gregaria
26. Two spotted cricket, Gryllus bimaculatus
27. Cave cricket, Phaeophilacris bredoides
28. Giant katydid, Stipnochlora couloniana#
29. Regal jumping spider, Phiddipus regius
 
So, I did a second run around Banham Zoo, just to make sure - call this a combination of the previous attempt updated, plus a double-check.

--Banham Zoo (1/1 and 3/1/2024)--
10. Somali Wild Ass (Equus africanus)
11. Chilean Pudu (Pudu puda)
12. Ring-Tailed Lemur (Lemur catta)
13. Black & White Ruffed Lemur (Varecia variegata)
14. Blue-Eyed Black Lemur (Eulemur flavifrons)
15. Red-Bellied Lemur (Eulemur rubriventer)
16. Sambirano Bamboo Lemur (Hapalemur occidentalis)
17. Golden Lion Tamarin (Leontopithecus rosalia)
18. Golden-Headed Lion Tamarin (Leontopithecus chrysomelas)
19. Western Pygmy Marmoset (Cebuella pygmaea)
20. Goeldi's Monkey (Callimico goeldii)
21. Cotton-Top Tamarin (Saguinus oedipus)
22. Emperor Tamarin (Saguinus imperator)
23. Common Marmoset (Callithrix jacchus)
24. Coppery Titi (Plecturocebus cupreus)
25. White-Faced Saki (Pithecia pithecia)
26. Black Howler Monkey (Alouatta caraya)
27. Black-Headed Spider Monkey (Ateles fusciceps)
28. Gelada (Theropithecus gelada)
 
Small update today.

Royal Ontario Museum: 3 January 2024
10. Vietnamese mossy frog (Theloderma corticale)
 
Kansas City Zoo and Aquarium (January 3, 2024)
1. Red-necked wallaby (Notamacropus rufogriseus)
2. Parma wallaby (Notamacropus parma)
3. Red kangaroo (Osphranter rufus)
4. Matschie’s tree kangaroo (Dendrolagus matschiei)
5. Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus)
6. Lion (Panthera leo)
7. Caracal (Caracal caracal)
8. Tiger (Panthera tigris)
9. Cotton-top tamarin (Saguinus oedipus)
10. Golden lion tamarin (Leontopithecus rosalia)
11. Guianan squirrel monkey (Saimiri sciureus)
12. White-faced saki (Pithecia pithecia)
13. Blue monkey (Cercopithecus mitis)
14. Allen’s swamp monkey (Allenopithecus nigroviridis)
15. Francois’ langur (Trachypithecus francoisi)
16. Lion-tailed macaque (Macaca silenus)
17. Humboldt penguin (Spheniscus humboldti)
18. Gentoo penguin (Pygoscelis papua)
19. Macaroni penguin (Eudyptes chrysolophus)
20. King penguin (Aptenodytes patagonicus)
21. Chinstrap penguin (Pygoscelis antarcticus)
22. Dwarf crocodile (Osteolaemus tetraspis)
23. Dyeing poison dart frog (Dendrobates tinctorius)
24. Green-and-black poison dart frog (Dendrobates auratus)
25. Amazon milk frog (Trachycephalus resinifictrix)
26. White’s tree frog (Ranoidea caerulea)
27. Panamanian golden frog (Atelopus zeteki)
28. Anthony’s poison arrow frog (Epipedobates anthonyi)
29. Oriental fire-bellied toad (Bombina orientalis)
30. Wyoming toad (Anaxyrus baxteri)

Lakeside Nature Center (January 3, 2024)
31. American green treefrog (Hyla cinerea)
32. American toad (Anaxyrus americanus)
 
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