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Jardin des Plantes Jardin des Plants - New arrivals and other news
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Question: did you check the current up to date map or only use the map you posted on your post?
@PossumRoach, the map I posted, as it was the most recent-looking map I could find online.
I see… because it’s quite outdated. This is the map I found on the zoo’s website.
https://www.mnhn.fr/system/files/2024-03/Plan-de-la-Ménagerie-2024.pdf
Things to pay attention are:
Number 6 is occupied by Tasmanian devils instead of goats.
Number 7 on the map you posted is closed until 2026.
Pademelons are in the enclosure across Visayan warty pics which is unsigned in the map you posted.
Hutias are in the enclosure by the corsacs which are signed as raccoons.
Yellow throated martens are not on the up-to-date map. But they are still listed on ZTL so they might still be on the same spot as the map you posted.
The area around the primate house and the nilgai enclosure will be closed to visitors to give the simians better outdoor enclosures.
Here’s a screenshot from the pdf in case the link I share does not work.
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@PossumRoach thank you very much for providing the following link. Strangely, I’d argue that the current version is more visually appealing than the original I posted.
Also, since you mentioned the area around the primate house is currently closed, does that mean I will miss out on seeing whatever animals that were present before?
Finally, since the map still shows Mountain Goats as being present (which I know is no longer the case), I will try to figure out which species have replaced them when I visit.
Also, since you mentioned the area around the primate house is currently closed, does that mean I will miss out on seeing whatever animals that were present before?
Finally, since the map still shows Mountain Goats as being present (which I know is no longer the case), I will try to figure out which species have replaced them when I visit.
Haliaeetus
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When I was there in September, the former Rocky Mountain Goat enclosure was empty of any animals.
Well, after a relatively successful first visit earlier today; here before you is a lengthy list of personal news, highlights, and other observations:
First things first, it appears that the zoo still maintains two Siberian Yellow-Throated Martens, (M. f. aterrima / borealis). Furthermore, they can now be seen inside and out of the Fauverie, where I believe the snow leopards used to be (?).
Second, to what I presume was their hibernation period, the European Sousliks (ground squirrels) were absent from their main exhibit.
The American Flamingos and Nene Geese were also absent on the day of my visit; however, in their case, it may have been due to a possible outbreak of bird flu in the region, (if this is true, do let me know).
Certain animals like the Yellow Mongoose, Malayan Tapirs, and assorted New World Monkeys, for example, were all off-display due to the current winter temperatures.
The walkways surrounding the construction site for the future orangutan project did make the alternative routes initially confusing; but when the time ever comes for the new exhibit’s opening, I’m certain it will make the original routes way easier to navigate.
Interestingly, the emu paddock labeled in the semi-current map now held a pair of Lowland Anoa, with the flightless birds being moved and mixed with the Eastern Grey Kangaroos at the opposite end of zoo grounds.
As for what happened to the original anoa paddock, it seemed that said enclosure became annexed to expand the neighboring Gaur paddock.
While this next observation doesn’t exactly relate to a captive animal, I was really excited to see my first wild Eurasian Jay (Garrulus glandarius)!
Coming back to the martens, not only I was thrilled to see their individuals being awake and active, but I even managed to see one outdoors for a brief moment before heading indoors. Unfortunately, the timing and perimeter fencing made it impossible to photograph, but nonetheless, I will take any activity over not seeing them at all!
From an American perspective, I was really excited to come across an animal enclosure outside of the main perimeter; which, in this case was for what appeared to be one Bennett’s Wallaby, (although, I’m certain they have more that were not easily seen).
Despite not being depicted in the map above, I can confirm that there are still two Nepalese Red Pandas, (A. f. fulgens) adjacent from the binturong/s.
In what seemed extraordinary, the pair of Tasmanian Devils were not only active and running about, but for a brief moment during a den-related squabble, I had heard the iconic vocalizations associated with this species for the very first time!
Unexpectedly, but equally satisfying, at the very moment I first came across their lone Goodfellow’s Tree Kangaroo, it decided to give out a sneeze! I could’ve sworn it was a coincidence, but perhaps, it must’ve been the animal’s way of saying hello; or even more-so, a sign of good fortune
While you will have to take my word for it with this next observation, I can confirm that there were at least two Transcaspian Urials* (O. v. arkal) still present at the zoo. However, both of these individuals were confined to an off-show area that is difficult to photograph given thanks to excessive foliage. Now in case if you’re wondering as to where this supposed area is, I recall them being near the two enclosures for the absent-on-my-visit Malayan Tapir.
*both appeared to be males, given the size of their horns
At first, I didn’t think that their lone Kirk’s Dik-Dik would tolerate the cold temperatures of the early afternoon, but low and behold, there it was in the very back of their admittedly spacious enclosure!
Finally, I don’t know if this was by pure coincidence or what, but I found it slightly amusing that, for example, I somehow saw individual pairs of the following species during my visit:
Overall, I had a pleasant experience with what I was able to achieve; even without seeing every desired rarity. I hope to upload an undisclosed number of images from my visit in the near future, and I am thankful for the knowledge and advice that I received in advance of this wonderful opportunity!
Oh, and by the way, have a Happy (early) New Year!!!
First things first, it appears that the zoo still maintains two Siberian Yellow-Throated Martens, (M. f. aterrima / borealis). Furthermore, they can now be seen inside and out of the Fauverie, where I believe the snow leopards used to be (?).
Second, to what I presume was their hibernation period, the European Sousliks (ground squirrels) were absent from their main exhibit.
The American Flamingos and Nene Geese were also absent on the day of my visit; however, in their case, it may have been due to a possible outbreak of bird flu in the region, (if this is true, do let me know).
Certain animals like the Yellow Mongoose, Malayan Tapirs, and assorted New World Monkeys, for example, were all off-display due to the current winter temperatures.
Unfortunately, I too had no luck in finding out their replacement either; so for now, there is nothing new to report on.
The walkways surrounding the construction site for the future orangutan project did make the alternative routes initially confusing; but when the time ever comes for the new exhibit’s opening, I’m certain it will make the original routes way easier to navigate.
Interestingly, the emu paddock labeled in the semi-current map now held a pair of Lowland Anoa, with the flightless birds being moved and mixed with the Eastern Grey Kangaroos at the opposite end of zoo grounds.
As for what happened to the original anoa paddock, it seemed that said enclosure became annexed to expand the neighboring Gaur paddock.
While this next observation doesn’t exactly relate to a captive animal, I was really excited to see my first wild Eurasian Jay (Garrulus glandarius)!
Coming back to the martens, not only I was thrilled to see their individuals being awake and active, but I even managed to see one outdoors for a brief moment before heading indoors. Unfortunately, the timing and perimeter fencing made it impossible to photograph, but nonetheless, I will take any activity over not seeing them at all!
Out of the following priorities, only the bustards and hutias sadly evaded me due to the cold weather; but thankfully, every other animal in my list was able to be seen, so I suppose the trade-off wasn’t all that bad.
From an American perspective, I was really excited to come across an animal enclosure outside of the main perimeter; which, in this case was for what appeared to be one Bennett’s Wallaby, (although, I’m certain they have more that were not easily seen).
Despite not being depicted in the map above, I can confirm that there are still two Nepalese Red Pandas, (A. f. fulgens) adjacent from the binturong/s.
In what seemed extraordinary, the pair of Tasmanian Devils were not only active and running about, but for a brief moment during a den-related squabble, I had heard the iconic vocalizations associated with this species for the very first time!
Unexpectedly, but equally satisfying, at the very moment I first came across their lone Goodfellow’s Tree Kangaroo, it decided to give out a sneeze! I could’ve sworn it was a coincidence, but perhaps, it must’ve been the animal’s way of saying hello; or even more-so, a sign of good fortune
While you will have to take my word for it with this next observation, I can confirm that there were at least two Transcaspian Urials* (O. v. arkal) still present at the zoo. However, both of these individuals were confined to an off-show area that is difficult to photograph given thanks to excessive foliage. Now in case if you’re wondering as to where this supposed area is, I recall them being near the two enclosures for the absent-on-my-visit Malayan Tapir.
*both appeared to be males, given the size of their horns
At first, I didn’t think that their lone Kirk’s Dik-Dik would tolerate the cold temperatures of the early afternoon, but low and behold, there it was in the very back of their admittedly spacious enclosure!
Finally, I don’t know if this was by pure coincidence or what, but I found it slightly amusing that, for example, I somehow saw individual pairs of the following species during my visit:
- Lowland Anoa
- Tasmanian Devil
- Gaur
- Dusky Pademelon
- Central Chinese Goral
- Vicuña
- Nepalese Red Panda
- Yellow-Throated Marten
- Visayan Warty Pig
- Palm Nut Vulture
- Spectacled Owl
- Transcaspian Urial
- Mangrove Snake
- White-Naped Crane
- Ural Owl
Overall, I had a pleasant experience with what I was able to achieve; even without seeing every desired rarity. I hope to upload an undisclosed number of images from my visit in the near future, and I am thankful for the knowledge and advice that I received in advance of this wonderful opportunity!
Oh, and by the way, have a Happy (early) New Year!!!
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Additionally, I should also mention that the owl cage where the Yellow-Throated Martens used to be was signed for a Pallas’s Cat (Otocolobus manul), that I, unfortunately, did not see.
Regardless, this should hopefully mark the return of the species to the Menagerie’s collection!
Regardless, this should hopefully mark the return of the species to the Menagerie’s collection!
As someone who is planning a trip to visit Paris in 2025, this is extremely helpful, Thank you. I'm glad to see the collection has not gone out of Urials (as ZTL says their last 2 left in 2023). As someone that focuses on ungulates and hoofstock, I am excited to see a collection that specialises more in Asian hoofstock than African (which seems to be more uncommon nowadays).
The Urials were moved offshow in 2023 to make way for the new Orang enclosure. I didn't realise they were actually still at the zoo! Maybe they will be moved back on show - perhaps to the vacated former Rocky Mountain Goat enclosure?
There are certainly more than one Tree Kangaroo kept at JDP. There were at least 3 on my visit in Sept, including a young one.
There are certainly more than one Tree Kangaroo kept at JDP. There were at least 3 on my visit in Sept, including a young one.
I wish I could’ve seen more tree kangaroos on the day of my visit, but alas, I only saw the single individual.
Too bad that the marsupial didn’t decide to sneeze two more times, then I would’ve been even more lucky!
Too bad that the marsupial didn’t decide to sneeze two more times, then I would’ve been even more lucky!
I believe they *were* sent away - to Parco Natura Viva in Italy if memory serves me correctly - and did not remain at the zoo.
As such this news either indicates that the zoo has re-obtained the species, or that Austin has misidentified what he saw
naturally I am very much hoping for the former.
In that case, I should hope too these were new individuals, and not the ones transferred to Italy. Otherwise, until I am able to access my own evidence, you’ll have to wait and believe me on this one. 
Provided by yours truly, Austin the Sengi
As I’ve mentioned before, it was a bit of a challenge to get a decent photo of this urial, given the excessive amount of plants and fencing, but here before you was the best I could get.
@TeaLovingDave this should provide some evidence, even it’s not the clearest, especially since neither of us know anything about the origins of the urials I saw.
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La Ménagerie, zoo du Jardin des Plantes, accueille un nouveau pademelon ! Avez-vous déjà entendu parler du pademelon à queue courte (Thylogale brunii) ? Son nom atypique est dérivé d’un terme aborigène, « paddymalla », qui signifie « petit kangourou de la forêt ». Un nom plus qu’adapté pour cet animal qui ne dépasse pas les 60 cm de long (hors queue), faisant de lui l’un des plus petits Macropodidés, famille à laquelle appartiennent les wallabies et les kangourous. Endémique de l’Indonésie et de la Papouasie-Nouvelle-Guinée, le pademelon à queue courte est généralement solitaire mais peut se regrouper pour brouter dans les clairières, toujours à proximité d’un bois dans lequel il peut se réfugier au moindre danger. L’alerte est donnée en tapant des pattes arrière, comme les lapins ! Malheureusement, cette espèce méconnue est régulièrement chassée pour sa viande et victime de la destruction de son habitat naturel, faisant d’elle une espèce au statut « vulnérable » sur la liste rouge de l'UICN (Union Internationale pour la Conservation de la Nature). Depuis plus d’une vingtaine d’années, environ 30 % de la population aurait disparu... Le nouveau mâle pademelon, arrivé du zoo de Plzen (République Tchèque) a pris la place d’un jeune mâle né en 2024 au zoo du Jardin des Plantes, parti au zoo de Jihlava (République Tchèque également). Ces transferts permettront ainsi aux groupes présents dans ces zoos de pouvoir continuer de se reproduire en gardant une importante diversité génétique. © MNHN - G. Crest #MNHN #pademelon #kangourou #animal #zoo #jardindesplantes #uicn #conservation #nature"
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Prénommée Mahina, elle a rejoint le 7 mars dernier la jument Pantruche dans le cadre d’un programme d’élevage européen (EEP). Actuellement visible du public, elle s’est parfaitement adaptée à son nouvel environnement. Plus petit et trapu que les chevaux domestiques (Equus caballus), le cheval de Przewalski (Equus caballus przewalskii) se caractérise par une robe beige et une courte crinière dressée. C’est aussi le seul équidé à disposer de 66 chromosomes, soit deux de plus que le cheval domestique ! Originaire des steppes eurasiennes, ce cheval vit en petits groupes structurés autour d’un étalon dominant protégeant son troupeau. Considéré comme éteint jusqu’à sa « redécouverte » en 1879 par l’explorateur russe Nikolaï Mikhaïlovitch Przewalski, le cheval de Przewalski a subi une intense pression de chasse et une forte compétition avec les espèces domestiques qui ont conduit à son extinction en milieu naturel à la fin des années 1960. Heureusement, au début du XXème siècle, de nombreux individus ont été placés en parcs zoologiques (trois d’entre eux ont par exemple rejoint le zoo du Jardin des Plantes en 1902 et 1906). Grâce à la mise en place de programmes d’élevage internationaux et de réintroduction, l’espèce a pu être reclassée « en danger critique d’extinction » sur la liste rouge de l’Union Internationale pour la Conservation de la Nature (UICN) en 2008, puis « en danger » en 2011 : aujourd’hui, plus de 300 chevaux parcourent à nouveau les steppes mongoles. En 2015, la Ménagerie a notamment contribué à cet effort en réintroduisant Paradise, la petite-fille de Pantruche, au côté de trois autres juments, dans la réserve du Grand Gobi (Mongolie). Les suivis sur place ont d’ailleurs permis d’observer qu’elle a donné naissance à plusieurs poulains ! Et si vous souhaitez contribuer à votre niveau à la protection de cette espèce, on vous invite à vous rendre directement sur notre plateforme de collecte de dons en ligne soutenir.mnhn.fr."
Tout comme chez les chiens, la posture de la queue de la mangouste jaune est aussi un bon indicateur de son comportement : Queue droite et dirigée vers le bas = posture neutre Queue en forme de « S » et dirigée vers le haut = danger Queue à l’horizontale avec un creux au milieu = satisfaction Mangouste ou suricate ? Si c’est deux animaux sont souvent confondus, c’est tout à fait normal : sous le nom commun de « mangouste » se cachent des carnivores féliformes appartenant à la famille des Herpestidés... dont font partie les suricates ! Vous l’aurez compris, les suricates appartiennent donc à la même famille que les mangoustes. Et pour venir voir ces nouveau-nés poindre le bout de leur museau, direction le zoo du Jardin des Plantes ! © E. Baril #naissance #news #MNHN #mangouste #animal #zoo #jardindesplantes"