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I therefore assume that there are quite a few "generic" tigers in Australia which are not included in ISIS figures?[/QUOTE]

Very, very few! I can only think of about 6 or 7. As a matter of fact there are more "generic" tigers in NZ than in Australia.

But then again, I'm not the ultimate expert as I can think of 12:4:0 "generics" that should be ISIS listed!
 
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Steve, as a private zoo entroponour(ok spelling- dont make a fuss even for me), you would know quite alot about private animals in australia, and you have actually told us about primates in private care.

Would you be able to produce a list, maybe not publically, as this is a forum accessable by all people, that tells of all the animals (mammals mainly) that are heald privately(to your knowledge)

please and thnaks
 
as I've just posted, I'm not the expert. However, it would be interesting to do a species by species count of felids and primates. There are so many primates out there that I doubt that an accurate count would be possible. And don't even think about exotic reptiles. Felids should be easier! Might need some help though. Anyone want to swap knowledge via PM?
 
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Steve Robinson said:
Very, very few! I can only think of about 6 or 7. As a matter of fact there are more "generic" tigers in NZ than in Australia.

But then again, I'm not the ultimate expert as I can think of 12:4:0 "generics" that should be ISIS listed!
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There are tigers at Crocodylus, Cairns Wildlife Safari Park, Zion's place in New Zealand and Bullens, to name a few. None of these institutions are ISIS members.
 
Sumatran Tigers

Sumatran Tigers are a different kettle of fish. We have a wonderful tiger facility here but at the current rate of recommended breeding of this species compared with the current level of demand for Sumatrans I don't think there will be any available in my lifetime. Generics it will have to be I'm afraid.[/QUOTE]

I have been asked privately why I am so pessimistic about the likelihood of the Darling Downs Zoo ever being a participant in the Australian Sumatran Tiger program.

My gloom is based on mathematics. Even before new members join ARAZPA, there are currently 16 institutions offering spaces to this species. Three of these zoos don't even hold the species yet. There are currently 36 Sumatran Tigers in Australia but 52 spaces available to them - a waiting list of 16 spaces with another two and possibly more new zoos looking to place the species once they achieve ARAZPA membership.
 
True, although I haven't checked the ISIS records.

In theory, the Perth animal at Mareeba would not be showing as being in the region on ISIS as it has been transferred to a non-ISIS institution. The Mareeba male is now on ISIS via Perth's records.
 
Which are the three members that don't yet have tigers but would like to?
 
Cairns Tropical Zoo, Crocodylus and Symbio. And there are another six zoos that already hold tigers and are looking to hold higher numbers, so Steve is right - there's a long waiting list.
 
Although that list may be shortening a bit now that Hari has done the job in WA and another Queensland litter expected next month.
 
Sumatrans

How many in total do Australia zoo have - surely genetically the three new cubs imported are by far the most genetically vauble...??? when they reporduce that will up total numbers

Can we start a new thread about sumatrans - stop stealling Darling Downs Pages... hehe
 
jay said:
Hello, have you let something out of the bag here ?
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I doubt it - I'm usually among the last to get the news so if I know something the rest of the world has known about it before me!!!!!!

My point was to express my happiness that the situation that I had commented on only a day or two prior, may be improving faster than I had thought possible. Hope so - Sumatrans here would be so much more worthwhile than generics.
 
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Sumatran Tigers are a different kettle of fish. We have a wonderful tiger facility here but at the current rate of recommended breeding of this species compared with the current level of demand for Sumatrans I don't think there will be any available in my lifetime. Generics it will have to be I'm afraid.[/QUOTE]

Tigers would do well in your Tiger exhibit Steve I hope you are luckly enough some day to obtain them :cool:
 
We're so lucky in Australia to have something that the rest of the world hasn't got hold of yet for once. I hope you do get some Steve before anyone decides to export them.
 
Hang on PAT; I don't understand what you're saying.
By "something that the rest of the world hasn't got hold of yet" do you mean fresh blood for the Sumatran tiger population?

Australian zoos will have to follow the directive of the international studbook keeper.
 
Ara said:
Australian zoos will have to follow the directive of the international studbook keeper.
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Not quite. There is no globl progam for Suamtran tigers (yet). The Australasian population is managed in conjunction with the EEP (European) program.
 
Sorry. What i meant was that for once there is a species that most of the captive population is in Australia. 16 out of 30 or something (i don't know exact figures.) For Sumatrans the rest of the zoo world is waiting for us to breed them not the other way around like it is for most species.
 
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