Natureland Zoo Natureland needs new owners!

hmmm, I wonder if I could persuade the bank to loan me some money.....

here's the text of Nisha's link for ease of reading:
The earthquake-stricken Orana Wildlife Trust has announced it is pulling out of running Nelson's Natureland Zoo.

The trust rescued the animal park in 2008, when the former trust that operated it pulled out for financial reasons.

Today Orana trust chief executive Lynn Anderson said the trust aimed to work with the Nelson City Council to find a new operator for the facility. The council owns the reserve at Tahunanui where Natureland is based.

Orana Wildlife Trust took over the operation of Natureland in October 2008 in good faith, but has suffered financial setbacks as a result of impacts from the series of major Christchurch earthquakes.

"Nobody could have predicted what nature had in store for us in Christchurch. The earthquakes, coupled with three significant snow storms over the past year, have changed our situation and operating environment so significantly and dramatically that the only prudent decision is for the trust to focus all of its efforts on ensuring the successful future of Orana Wildlife Park, which is a major asset to Christchurch and the whole South Island," Ms Anderson said.

The council said Natureland will operate as usual for now and would discuss what the next steps to take at its meeting on June 26. One possibility is to call for expressions of interest for another operator to take over running Natureland.

...and the original thread about Natureland being taken over by Orana: http://www.zoochat.com/17/natureland-zoo-closing-14439/
 
hmmm, I wonder if I could persuade the bank to loan me some money.....

Might be prudent not to ask them!!

Read the comments following the article.

It was explained to us when we were there that Nelsonians had no concept of what a fair admission price should be. They really expected to visit the zoo for nothing.

When the Trust did raise the admission price a fraction the locals responded by staying away in droves.

It will be a pity if this zoo has to close as it is a neat little zoo with some of the most dedicated staff that I have ever met.

However, it will be a herculean task to make it commercially viable.

Hmmmmmm - on reflection, you might be just the person to do it!:p
 
I was going to make reference to the comments under the article, particularly the one that said at $9 it was too expensive and only "rich toruists" could afford to visit!! Someone else made the observant remark that its a good bet those same people still have enough money for their beer and cigarettes though.
 
It's a very, very small facility to operate as a commercial venture, or indeed to charge an admission price for. I wouldn't waste the trip to the bank Chlidonias.

At best it *might* be viable as an attraction to drive attendance at a catering venture, plus you could probably get a Government subsidy for some sort of education program. But as a standalone paid-attraction zoo? It's just too small. I have to admit that I doubt I would pay $9 to see a few capuchins, meerkats, a porcupine, a possum, an aviary and some NZ reptiles. Ok, I would if Nelson were the only city in NZ I was visiting, but not if I could go to any of Auckland, Wellington, Hamilton or Christchurch on the same trip.

I figured Natureland's days were numbered from the time the big earthquake hit Christchurch last year.
 
I was going to make reference to the comments under the article, particularly the one that said at $9 it was too expensive and only "rich toruists" could afford to visit!! Someone else made the observant remark that its a good bet those same people still have enough money for their beer and cigarettes though.

sadly that is how the general population think
not a large enough population base to rely on general public admission to fund it
been there done that and still have the stretch marks:)
charitable trust, grants or funding
educational programmes, new exhibits each year may help or a rich philanthropist
 
I actually thought it was a rather bizarre decision for Orana to take on Natureland in the first place. As Steve says its a nice little zoo but without doubt its major visitor base is the local population, and I think it will always struggle there. It would be interesting to see some costs of what it takes to run it and how many visitors it needs to make it viable.
 
It would be interesting to see some costs of what it takes to run it and how many visitors it needs to make it viable.

You will need those figures to take to your Bank.;)

An article somewhere said that they get 30,000 visitors a year but need 35,000 to achieve viability.
 
You will need those figures to take to your Bank.;)

An article somewhere said that they get 30,000 visitors a year but need 35,000 to achieve viability.
found that article: Financial lifeline for zoo - news - nelson-mail | Stuff.co.nz

"Ms Anderson [from Orana] said about 30,000 people were visiting Natureland each year and to make it viable it needed to get 35,000 people through the gate a year."

I'm not sure if that is the total number needed, or only the total needed when the local council is supporting the zoo (Orana was paying $10 rent yearly, and the council was providing $200,000 support the first year [from 2008], $175,000 the second year, and $150,000 after that for the next five years).

I just checked the Nelson Council site: http://www.nelsoncitycouncil.co.nz/facts-and-figures/
Nelson city has 42,891 people.....
 
a longer article here:
Natureland Zoo at risk as Orana Wildlife Trust quits... | Stuff.co.nz
14 June 2012

The future of Natureland Zoo in Tahunanui is once more in doubt with its Christchurch-based lifesaver pulling out.

The earthquake-stricken Orana Wildlife Trust announced yesterday it will withdraw this year from operating city council-owned Natureland, a year after it hinted things were not looking good.

In 2008, Nelsonians marched in Trafalgar St with placards emblazoned Save Our Zoo when the council planned to close Natureland because then-operator Abel Tasman Gateway Trust was struggling financially.

Orana took over the zoo's operation but in the last few years visitor numbers have again fallen.

Nelson Mayor Aldo Miccio said Natureland would operate as usual for now and the council would discuss what should happen at its meeting on June 26. One possibility was to seek expressions of interest in running Natureland.

"Hopefully we can find a good long term outcome to give the future of Natureland some certainty," Mr Miccio said.

Nelson Mail online reaction since yesterday's announcement of Orana's withdrawal has included comments on Natureland's entry price, calls for it to close, while others suggested changes to make the most of the facility.

Orana chief executive Lynn Anderson said in June last year the parent company which runs Orana Wildlife Park in Christchurch was struggling to survive the aftermath of the Canterbury earthquakes.

"The success of Natureland is tied to Orana Park and the mothership is not in good shape," Ms Anderson told the Nelson Mail.

Almost 36,000 visitors went through Natureland's gates in the 2008-09 year, but numbers have declined since then to what is looking to be just over 31,000 this year.

The council agreed in 2008 to provide the wildlife trust with the Natureland site in Tahunanui for 20 years for an annual rental of $10. Nelson ratepayers contributed $200,000 in the first year, $175,000 in the second year, $150,000 in the third year, and were to contribute no less than that in following years.

The council also set aside $160,000 in the first year for essential renewals and improvements.

Natureland is also funded by gate-takings while the Orana trust has contributed to the cost of improving and expanding various animal enclosures and exhibits within the zoo.

Ms Anderson said yesterday the trust was pulling out of the arrangement with the council because it had to concentrate resources at Orana Wildlife Park.

"We took over the operation of Natureland in October 2008 in good faith. Nobody could have predicted what nature had in store for us in Christchurch. The earthquakes, coupled with three significant snowstorms over the past year, have changed our situation and operating environment so significantly and dramatically that the only prudent decision is for the trust to focus all of its efforts on ensuring the successful future of Orana Wildlife Park."

Ms Anderson said last year the trust's operation of Orana Park, and ultimately Natureland, had been propped up by a major cost-cutting exercise, including the loss of 10 fulltime equivalent jobs and cuts to various operations.

"Domestic and international visitors to Christchurch have dramatically dropped and Orana is committed to providing a strong reason for visitors to come back to our city. This can only be achieved if all efforts are concentrated at Orana."

Last week's snowstorm forced the closure of the park for 10 days with repairs estimated to cost $40,000.

ORANA'S WORK AT NATURELAND

Natureland was set to close in March 2008 until Orana Wildlife Trust entered negotiations with the Nelson City Council and took over the operation of the facility in October 2008.

New meerkat enclosure added in December 2008. New African crested porcupine enclosure opened November 2010.

Retail shop extension to the existing entrance building created in November 2010. Significant maintenance completed including food preparation area upgrade.

Ministry of Education Learning Experiences Outside the Classroom Contract secured.
 
Natureland Manager Braces For New Fight To Save... | Stuff.co.nz
14 June 2012

Natureland operations manager Gail Sutton is keeping a brave public face on the future of the zoo that has been her focus for 20 years.

Yesterday the small group of parents and children she welcomed into the enclosure did not know that the zoo was again under threat.

"It's a bit like deja vu," she said warily. She appeared resigned to the fact another struggle was imminent, or that she had simply had enough.

Things looked grim four years ago when it looked like the zoo would close, but after the Orana Wildlife Trust came to the rescue, the number and type of animals increased, their enclosures were renovated and staff were dressed in smart new uniforms.

Mrs Sutton said Orana's decision to pull out had been on the cards for a year or so.

She disagrees with public comment that the decline in numbers to Natureland was because entry prices were too high.

"People have complained, but equal numbers have said it's cheap."

Mrs Sutton, who began helping at Natureland as a volunteer in 1991 became a staff member two years later and has managed it since 1997. She has just signed up Natureland's 407th subscriber to the zoo's annual membership scheme.

Nelson man Alan Smith, who grew up visiting Natureland, is one subscriber. He and 3 1/2-year-old daughter Bella visit just about every week.

"She loves it. There's nowhere else I can take her where she can see and touch so many animals."

Bella said her favourites were the "birdies" and the rats that appeared at random to feed off the scraps of bread and "ricies" dished out to the animals legitimately.

"It's a much better place than it was. It would be a shame if it closed," Mr Smith said.

Jasmine Nicholson-Mooney was at Natureland yesterday with her 4-year-old son Corban. She was thinking of becoming an annual subscriber because they lived nearby.

"Corban would be heartbroken if Natureland wasn't here. It's been here since I was a kid, and all the schools come here."

Corban said his favourite was the porcupine, which yesterday was munching on kumara as senior keeper Joanne Gibson gave a talk on the African creature. Corban was quickly distracted by pigeons clamouring for his "ricies".

Lisa Fielding, a visitor from Auckland, said Natureland was cheap compared with many other attractions and was perfectly adequate for children. "They really love it here. It makes them happy."

Mrs Sutton said there had been huge plans for Natureland. The zoo's area was to have been expanded by a couple of thousand square metres, which was part of the deal struck with the Nelson City Council when lease and management negotiations with the Orana trust were settled.

Cotton-top tamarins were on the cards, and research was under way on the possibility of introducing red pandas to Natureland. The walk-through aviary was being revamped and a five-year plan was being drafted, Mrs Sutton said.

It had just taken on two new fulltime staff, taking total staff numbers to seven fulltime and one part-time worker.

"If we hadn't had the earthquakes we'd have had at least one more exhibit by now. I'm sad they happened – gutted really, but I support Lynn's (Anderson, Orana chief executive) decision and I know she's very upset by this."

NATURELAND ZOO

Built by Jaycees volunteers from 1964, handed over to Nelson City Council 1967.

Animals: About 400 exotic, New Zealand native, domestic farm animals, pocket pets, and aquarium species.

Annual running costs: $400,000 to $500,000 funded by gate takings, Nelson City Council and Orana Wildlife Trust.

Annual visitors: 30,000 to 35,000.

Entry costs: $9 adults, $4.50 children and $22.50 for family of two adults and two children.

Annual membership: $36 for adults, $22.50 per child (under-twos free) or $90 for family of two adults and two children.
 
Annual running costs: $400,000 to $500,000 funded by gate takings, Nelson City Council and Orana Wildlife Trust.

Annual visitors: 30,000 to 35,000.

Entry costs: $9 adults, $4.50 children and $22.50 for family of two adults and two children.
and there are the figures. Looks like they need to double the entry price to take enough, but if they do then the numbers of visitors will drop too much. Or keep the entry price and double the visitor numbers.
 

Seven fulltime staff seems rather excessive, I would have thought they could have got by with less than that, why did they need two new staff? I would like to know what the staff roles are, I could see it being 2-3 keepers, one receptionist/retail person (plus part-timer here too) and then a teacher for the education side of things. Make the most of volunteers for garden/ground maintenance, and even cleaning/food prep and feeding of domestic species.

What species does Natureland have, other than farmyard species? Any native species? Is the walkthrough aviary just standard exotic birds? Are meerkats, capuchins, & porcupine the only exotic mammals?

It says they have a "retail area", is this just a shop, or is there a cafe here too?
 
Seven fulltime staff seems rather excessive, I would have thought they could have got by with less than that, why did they need two new staff? I would like to know what the staff roles are, I could see it being 2-3 keepers, one receptionist/retail person (plus part-timer here too) and then a teacher for the education side of things. Make the most of volunteers for garden/ground maintenance, and even cleaning/food prep and feeding of domestic species.

What species does Natureland have, other than farmyard species? Any native species? Is the walkthrough aviary just standard exotic birds? Are meerkats, capuchins, & porcupine the only exotic mammals?

It says they have a "retail area", is this just a shop, or is there a cafe here too?
I can't remember staff numbers when I was there, but I would expect one full time shop/reception and one part-time, three or four keepers (three minimum) and the manager who may also be a keeper. I would suggest the two new staff would be the educators.

The retail area is a small shop where reception (tickets) is; no cafe.

There are a few native birds (apart for the kea and kakariki, mostly rescue individuals), tuatara and some geckoes. The walk-through is all exotics (mainly Australian parakeets); there was a plan to turn it into a native aviary but the roof needed repairing before that would happen. The only mammals apart for the domestics are fallow deer, porcupine, meerkats, capuchins and possum. They did have otters previously but they died of old age and instead of replacing them Orana had them modify the enclosure and sent them the porcupine which they needed to off-load.
 
Zoo's Fate Known Tomorrow - news - nelson-mail | Stuff.co.nz
25 June 2012

The fate of Natureland Zoo's animals hinges on a Nelson City Council decision tomorrow.

Councillors will broadly have a choice of four options following earthquake-stricken Orana Wildlife Trust's decision to withdraw this year from operating the city-council owned zoo at Tahunanui.

At tomorrow's council policy and planning meeting, councillors will analyse the options of requiring Orana to continue running Natureland in accordance with its lease; close Natureland; have the council take it over; or seek expressions of interest for another operator to take over the zoo either in its current form or some other business model.

A recommendation will be put that the council opt to seek expressions of interest for another operator.

It is also proposed that a working group of councillors be formed to consider any expressions of interest received and make recommendations to the council on Natureland's future.

The proposal says Orana would be expected to continue to manage the zoo until decisions are made on Natureland's future.

Four years ago councillors decided to close the zoo because then-operator Abel Tasman Gateway Trust was struggling financially but then came under public pressure not to, with residents marching in Trafalgar St to the council offices to protest.

Orana then took over the zoo's operation, but in the last few years visitor numbers have again fallen.

This time Natureland supporters are keen to see it survive, and a Facebook page, Save Natureland Zoo, has been set up, but so far there has not been a big public reaction.

Natureland operations manager Gail Sutton said staff were in limbo as they waited to see what happened at tomorrow's meeting.

Morale was "obviously a bit flat, but we've still got a zoo to run and animals to care for".

Ms Sutton said she was not aware of anything like a march in the pipeline this time, but a lot of concerned people, especially teachers, had been ringing and calling in.

"Until the council meeting, we don't know where we're at," she said.

Nelson woman Cherie Palmer has set up the Facebook page to raise awareness of its plight.

The keen photographer has an annual pass to the zoo and visits most weeks. She said it would be sad to see it go.

Ms Sutton said the zoo's 500 animals would need to be re-homed if Natureland was forced to close.

"It would be a big job. It would probably take at least three to four months to wind it down."

Exotic species, including monkeys, meerkats and a porcupine, and New Zealand natives, including seven tuatara used to educate young Nelsonians about their significance, would have to be transferred to places with licences to hold them.

Natureland is home to numerous rescued animals, like Jake the one-legged kea, who ended up there through injury and would not survive in the wild if released.

The zoo's domestic animals and exotic birds, like parrots, would either have to be sold or given away.

Petra the possum and Cleo the magpie would possibly have to be put down if the zoo closed, due to their pest status.

Nelson Mayor Aldo Miccio said councillors would discuss a way forward for Natureland during tomorrow's meeting, with it "unlikely" that the council would give up on the zoo altogether at this stage.

Mr Miccio said one possibility was to seek expressions of interest in running Natureland, but no-one had come out of the woodwork yet.

"There will be interest I'm sure. Hopefully we can actually keep it going, because it was something that I helped save last time. It's important to a lot of people. We'll try and do everything that we can."

and a couple of the comments below the article:

"Yes put down the prices because no one in Nelson would pay $4.50 to visit their local zoo. As cheap as $4.50 might sound it is a lot of darn money if you are a Nelsonian."

"How do you get in for $4.50? Cost me $10 per adult the last time I went there earlier this year and I thought the price was a bit high. If I could get in for $4.50 I'd go several times a year because my son really enjoyed it but at $10 I won't go back."
 
Steve Robinson said:
What did your bank manager say, Chlidonias????
on looking at the figures a few posts back I decided that I didn't want my bank manager displacing a spinal disc from laughing too hard, so decided not to pursue the idea any further than just the passing fancy.
 
Natureland Zoo in Nelson may have to close if no one can be found to run it.

The Orana Wildlife Trust is pulling out of the park because of the impact of Canterbury earthquakes on its Christchurch operations.

The Nelson City Council has agreed to seek expressions of interest.

Council spokesman Roger Ball says if no one comes forward they'll have to consider other options.

"It'd be premature at this point because we've got a couple of indications from organisations out there that are showing some interest."

Mr Ball says the park attracts more than 30,000 people a year.

Mayor Aldo Miccio says the council's considering its options.

"At this stage it's trying to find somebody else to run it and then we'll have to make that tough call whether or not council wants to run it themselves and / or the possibility of closing Natureland."

Mr Miccio says it's about coming up with a business plan which gets more people to Natureland so it can be financially sustainable. .

NZ Futureof Natureland Zoounclear from NZCity
 
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