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Writhedhornbill

Writhedhornbill

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Does the Clore rainforest lookout at London zoo have any Black lion or Pied tamarins? They have them at Chester and Jersey and they are very rare in zoos.
 
At a guess?

This is all speculation, but given what I know about London I'd say no to Pied, maybe, to Black Lion. I know they did have Golden, and Golden-Headed, and I seem to think maybe Black in the old Clore house (though thinking back they could just've been Goeldi's). The idea with the Clore house does seem to be to provide a new home for the mammals already kept their. That's the best I can offer.
 
Yes they have something like half the worlds population of the Pied Tamarins, but they don't breed as much as the zoos with only 1 pair.
 
I don't think ZSL have ever had black lion tamarins.

They do now have Pied tamarins, possibly replacing the common marmosets in one of the smaller clore units.
 
newquay zoo has the most sucessful breeding pair of pied tamarin in europe they recieved them from Lee Durrell (according to a past newsletter)
 
^Chris^ said:
At a guess?

This is all speculation, but given what I know about London I'd say no to Pied, maybe, to Black Lion. I know they did have Golden, and Golden-Headed, and I seem to think maybe Black in the old Clore house (though thinking back they could just've been Goeldi's). The idea with the Clore house does seem to be to provide a new home for the mammals already kept their. That's the best I can offer.
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Having not seen the re-vamped Clore, I couldn't say for certain, but I would doubt that ZSL would mix Pied or Black lion tamarins with other species. Both species are not reliable breeders in captivity globally, nor is there a surplus. Species such as Goeldis and Golden lion tamarins are relatively common in captivity and mix well with birds and other mammals. The other species which I am sure they are using is Pygmy marmosets. If they do keep the formerly mentioned species they would be housed seperately. Pieds in particular seem to be very nervous breeders.
 
The new clore has Silvery Marmosets, Golden-Headed Lion Tamarins & Pygmy Marmosets all mixed in the rainforest biome (with Titi Monkeys, Two-toed sloths and sun bitterns).
 
I believe a second trumpeter arrived and they are now in the main biome with the species mentioned above. There are red/yellow (i can't remember) -footed tortoises which replaced the agoutis, as they were too destructive. The agoutis now share one of the glass-fronted exhibits at the side, along with the goeldi's (which were also originally mixed in the main biome but were aggressive to the other primates). There is also still at least one Black-necked aracari in the biome. There are also the two sloths, the pair of Red titis with their young, and single-sex groups of golden-headed lion tamarin, silvery marmoset and pygmy marmoset.

The pied tamarins I am pretty sure now occupy part of the exhibit, but in one of the glass-fronted cases at the side of the main biome, which also hold emperor, cotton-topped, golden lion tamarins, black-tailed marmosets, green iguanas, and the indoor gentle lemur exhibit as well as the goeldi/agouti display. There is a tamandua exhibit somewhere around there but part of the clore was closed off last time I went and I didn't get to see exactly where they are. I am not 100% but I think the zoo previously had common marmosets where the pied tamarins now are.
 
I was at Regent's Park today. I didn't see either species, but I suspect they may be in the parts of the Clore that are now closed off, with the Tamanduas perhaps.
The Round House is still closed so I couldn't visit the aye-ayes either.

Alan
 
gentle lemur said:
I was at Regent's Park today.
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My goodness Alan you are getting around this summer, you will soon be rivalling snowleopard with his road trip.
Maybe some reviews os your visits please, especially if they are of the quality of the HWP review:)
 
gentle lemur said:
I was at Regent's Park today. I didn't see either species, but I suspect they may be in the parts of the Clore that are now closed off, with the Tamanduas perhaps.
The Round House is still closed so I couldn't visit the aye-ayes either.

Alan
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is the new otter pool now in use? and is it the babies that were born the other year that are now living there?
 
On my visit towards the end of last year I did not see the tamanduas . I asked a staff member and was told their enclosure is off the education (?)room to the side of the Rainforest - so not really on view . Hope that makes sense .
 
Tigerlemurguy said:
could someone answer my question please :)
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Sorry I can't. I turned back at the Round House. I noticed there were otters in their normal pool, but I didn't take a closer look (I wanted to get round the aquarium and a second visit to the reptiles).
I didn't see a new otter pool, does anyone know where it is (or is going to be)?

kiang, I've had a busy week on a quick dash around the south. I've taken a great many photos which will take me weeks to sort out and process. I think I will write something about the Madagascar exhibit at Cotswold, which was my favourite new development.

Alan
 
The Tamandua exhibit, as well as the inside of the round house, was one of a number of enclousures given an internal refurb this year, from what I can tell it would appear that there may be a section of the clore yet to be opened with an education area, and this I imagine is where the tamanduas are. I wouldn't be surprised if the surplus otters have been housed in what was the porcupine/mara pen which formed the little outdoor enclosure in the original inception of the clore pavillion, but that this is also still off exhibit. A whole corridor of exhibits was closed off when I last visited in the spring, the section to your right as you enter the main building coming from the cotton terraces. This section leads to the small outdoor area where the new otter pool is possibly located.
 
The new otter pool will definately be in the former mara enclosure. There was a piece about it on the ZSL website. It's why the mara were moved to 'meet the monkeys'.
 
When you enter the Clore now, the rainforest exhibit is on your left, the moonlight world is down the steps and the 'conservation breeding section' is to your right. This last one contains the marmosets - as it has since the building opened (although they have combined the original cages into larger units, which is a great improvement). The corridor leading to the outside courtyards, at rightangles to the marmosets, is now closed off by a barrier, so I presume this is where these animals are kept.
I hope they will reopen this section eventually as I always liked this area - and it seems they have some interesting animals there.

Alan
 
Does anyone have a floorplan for the Clore?

I can't figure out how it's set out (despite gentle lemur's good explanation)
 
i already know where it is, you know the old mara enclosure in the clore? thats where ive been told it is but im not sure if it last years offspring which it is now home to
 
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