I know there are hundreds of photographs of the animals at Chester already, however I wanted to share some of my good ones from today and would be grateful for any feedback :).
Technically as there are multiple subspecies of P. pygmaeus, Pongo pygmaeus hybrid would be a hybrid of those subspecies (which in truth I suspect any non-wild-born Bornean is likely to be) while Pongo hybrid is a hybrid between Bornean and Sumatran. However, in cases like this a lot depends on what the zoo call the animal in it's record - if it hasn't taken account of the species being split then a Bornean-Sumatran hybrid would be a Pongo pygmaeus hybrid!
Basically it depends on what the zoos call them - often the case with hybrids and uncertain IDs/tenuous subspecies on ISIS.
Against the white sky it looks like Puluh has had a session with "Venture Photography"! They always use bleached out backgrounds, to save money on printing ink my friend who's a photographer told me.
In fact the more I look at it the more he looks like he's at one of those trendy photography studios where they take 'action' portraits of the family bouncing on space hoppers & suchlike! "Can you climb up the top of the pole and look down at us... that's right"
Against the white sky it looks like Puluh has had a session with "Venture Photography"! They always use bleached out backgrounds, to save money on printing ink my friend who's a photographer told me.
In fact the more I look at it the more he looks like he's at one of those trendy photography studios where they take 'action' portraits of the family bouncing on space hoppers & suchlike! "Can you climb up the top of the pole and look down at us... that's right"
Hehe, I see what you mean. I quite like the white background since it puts all of the attention on the subject and makes for a nice contrast etc, however the one bad thing about it is it doesn't seem as natural as it could.
I think ISIS just repeats whatever details the recording zoo sends them, as the Yearbook censuses do.
You are right that all Bornean Orangs in captivity, apart from some which maybe came from the same wild district originally as young pairs and were then kept together and later bred, are subspecific hybids under the new classifications. Too complicated to contemplate!
All Orangs at Chester are Zoobred now, apart from Martha. The Sumatran young ones are third generation in captivity on their mothers' side, second on their father's.
I think ISIS just repeats whatever details the recording zoo sends them, as the Yearbook censuses do.
You are right that all Bornean Orangs in captivity, apart from some which maybe came from the same wild district originally as young pairs and were then kept together and later bred, are subspecific hybids under the new classifications. Too complicated to contemplate!
All Orangs at Chester are Zoobred now, apart from Martha. The Sumatran young ones are third generation in captivity on their mothers' side, second on their father's.
Ahh cool. Thanks for the information . Does the hybridisation damage the Orangs in any way, or does it not matter as much in 'area-specific subspecies?' Also, if tests were done on every captive Orang to find out which subspecies they were hybrids of, would it be possible to match individuals in an attempt to breed a 'pure' Bornean Orang subspecies (like Edinburgh are doing with their W. African Chimps and like many zoos do with Rothschild Giraffes)?
