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Puma/Clouded Leopard Enclosure

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The enclosure now has more things for the cats to climb on. Photo taken at the RSCC, Kent
So does a domestic dog. But would anyone ever dream of incarcerating a spaniel or a terrier for life in a cage about the size and height of a big living room and expect it to be content in there?

Let alone a wild predator?!

"Big living room?" Big bathroom maybe. It's laughable that anyone could seriously defend this enclosure. There is a happy medium between "big masses of land" and this pitifully small box.
 
Why won't you listen to reason? It's hardly pitifully small, and it's not just me who says that. I know it's not ideal, but what makes you think it's completely unacceptable?
 
Why won't you listen to reason? It's hardly pitifully small, and it's not just me who says that. I know it's not ideal, but what makes you think it's completely unacceptable?

I totally agree. As I have said, it is below average but if you're going to call this pitifully small, then you must think the Aspinall cages are terrible for the inhabitants (their record with the species says otherwise).

It may help you work out a size comparison if you look at some of my other pics, then you will see how small a Puma looks in comparison to this enclosure. As has already been said, photos make it appear smaller than it really is due to it being below, and far away from, an elevated viewing shelter.
 
Exactly, and if it helps, this is about 10 times the size of my bathroom lol.
 
So does a domestic dog. But would anyone ever dream of incarcerating a spaniel or a terrier for life in a cage about the size and height of a big living room and expect it to be content in there?

Let alone a wild predator?!

Hi Dan.

I can see that neither of our opinions are going to be swayed on this one.

Despite this, my post was meant somewhat tongue-in-cheek (hence the ;)), although I'm sorry if this was unclear.

BTW, a captive Clouded Leopard is not a "wild predator" any more than a domestic dog as neither are free or living in their "wild" state (sorry to be such a nit-picker).
 
Clouded Leopards= Big "Small Cat" or small "Big cat"? Let's take a look at the current scientific classification:

Order: Carnivora
Family: Felidae
Subfamily: Pantherinae ("Big Cats")
Genus: Neofelis
Species: Neofelis nebulosa = Clouded Leopard
(and Neofelis diardi = Bornean Clouded Leopard)

=> according to current biological classification, a clouded leopard is a Big Cat.

About this enclosure: both aesthetically & educationally as well as from the general husbandry's viewpoint not really convincing. Could be better.
 
Ah ok, thanks for clearing that up. I assume they are the smallest of the big cats?
Your review pretty much sums it up (could be better), although I don't think you can really comment on the husbandry since you haven't seen the indoor house.
 
Hi Dan.

I can see that neither of our opinions are going to be swayed on this one.

Despite this, my post was meant somewhat tongue-in-cheek (hence the ;)), although I'm sorry if this was unclear.

BTW, a captive Clouded Leopard is not a "wild predator" any more than a domestic dog as neither are free or living in their "wild" state (sorry to be such a nit-picker).

No worries, redpanda!

When I used the term "wild" I did it with the meaning/definition that we in Sweden apply to this word, basically "the opposite of domesticated". In this sense a leopard is always a "wild" animal, no matter what.

Language is a tricky business ;). You guys who have English as your native language are lucky...
 
Clouded Leopards= Big "Small Cat" or small "Big cat"? Let's take a look at the current scientific classification:

Order: Carnivora
Family: Felidae
Subfamily: Pantherinae ("Big Cats")
Genus: Neofelis
Species: Neofelis nebulosa = Clouded Leopard
(and Neofelis diardi = Bornean Clouded Leopard)

=> according to current biological classification, a clouded leopard is a Big Cat.

About this enclosure: both aesthetically & educationally as well as from the general husbandry's viewpoint not really convincing. Could be better.

Im in agreement with your statements Sun Wukong , i do hope this enclosure is improved but im reluctant to run this centre down because i believe its heart is in the right place regarding conservation
 

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