fkalltheway

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The furthest thing from my mind at the time was the fact that I was right in the middle of NYC
Another thing we agree on Dan, Am all for dressing up the inside the enclousre but is it really worth dressing up whats basically a cage?

Why bother painting your house or hanging pictures in it? It's just a house, right? Why put a curtain on a stage? It's obviously a stage. Why comb your hair in the morning? Why stack the apples in the grocery?

This is one of the most ridiculous and revealing comments yet....
 
Why bother painting your house or hanging pictures in it? It's just a house, right? Why put a curtain on a stage? It's obviously a stage. Why comb your hair in the morning? Why stack the apples in the grocery?

This is one of the most ridiculous and revealing comments yet....

But if you can't afford pictures, does this make your house a bad house?

And years of student theatre have taught me that neither curtain nor stage are necessary to put on the show.

They are nice things to have if the money is there to provide them. If money's tight, there are other priorities to consider.


I'm also intrigued as to what this comment has 'revealed' to you? You seem to write off taun's comment as ridiculous without explaining why you find it so.
 
Why bother painting your house or hanging pictures in it? It's just a house, right? Why put a curtain on a stage? It's obviously a stage. Why comb your hair in the morning? Why stack the apples in the grocery?

This is one of the most ridiculous and revealing comments yet....

You don't need to paint a house, its a luxury that we can afford. And yeah its just house!

I gather the apples thing is an american thing? As were not so lucky over here to have our apples stacked for us!
 
But if you can't afford pictures, does this make your house a bad house?

And years of student theatre have taught me that neither curtain nor stage are necessary to put on the show.

They are nice things to have if the money is there to provide them. If money's tight, there are other priorities to consider.


I'm also intrigued as to what this comment has 'revealed' to you? You seem to write off taun's comment as ridiculous without explaining why you find it so.

It explains the total lack of interest/respect for aesthetics and the role it plays in the guest experience and education process that Taun and others continually display in their commentary here. I just don't get it, certainly don't agree with it, but at least they are consistent!
 
It explains the total lack of interest/respect for aesthetics and the role it plays in the guest experience and education process that Taun and others continually display in their commentary here. I just don't get it, certainly don't agree with it, but at least they are consistent!

It's not lack of interest otherwise I wouldn't bother discussing the topic.

See now I don't get your comments at all, I respect that the inside should be flased out to be natural looking but why the whole hog? I don't see it's worth trying to replicate their natural environment, because now matter how hard you try it will not be the same experience as actually visiting these animals in the wild.

So is this just misleading the public?
 
It explains the total lack of interest/respect for aesthetics and the role it plays in the guest experience and education process that Taun and others continually display in their commentary here. I just don't get it, certainly don't agree with it, but at least they are consistent!

It's not a disregard for aethestics, as taun has pointed out. It's just that spending money on trying to replicate the animals' habitat in the visitor areas may not be the best way of deploying valuable funds. Certainly where possible the interior of the enclosure should look natural and appropriate but I think where we differ is how much importance we attach to the design of the outside of the exhibit. If it can be done well and and cheaply, excellent. If not, keep it simple, build something neat, sturdy and appropriate to the setting (whether that's pine woodland, country estate, Texan ranch or urban park).
 
It's not a disregard for aethestics, as taun has pointed out. It's just that spending money on trying to replicate the animals' habitat in the visitor areas may not be the best way of deploying valuable funds. Certainly where possible the interior of the enclosure should look natural and appropriate but I think where we differ is how much importance we attach to the design of the outside of the exhibit. If it can be done well and and cheaply, excellent. If not, keep it simple, build something neat, sturdy and appropriate to the setting (whether that's pine woodland, country estate, Texan ranch or urban park).

Fair enough, but the concept of landscape immersion--as differentiated from creating a natural habitat in the exhibit only--supposes that the habitat message is heightened by including the visitor in the replicated environment. But I agree this is most effective when the environment being replicated is the same or similar to the one in which the zoo is actually located. Arizona Sonora Desert Museum being the best example I can think of, Seattle's Northern Trail also...
 
Fair enough, but the concept of landscape immersion--as differentiated from creating a natural habitat in the exhibit only--supposes that the habitat message is heightened by including the visitor in the replicated environment....

Which I guess is the part I don't necessarily agree with. It can work very well, but it can also just look tacky.

But I agree this is most effective when the environment being replicated is the same or similar to the one in which the zoo is actually located. Arizona Sonora Desert Museum being the best example I can think of, Seattle's Northern Trail also...

Agreed.

I also think this is why the better European exhibits of this style are mostly indoors - if you can make the allowance of ignoring the glass roof, then the entirety of the environment can be landscaped so the effect is complete.
 

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