Geladas are no babonns ? Thats wrong. I can see just a few single rocks in this wexhibit for the ibex, not reall much for them. In all exhibits, where they have trees, I've seen the geladas with pleasure climbing.....
Geladas are no babonns ? Thats wrong. I can see just a few single rocks in this wexhibit for the ibex, not reall much for them. In all exhibits, where they have trees, I've seen the geladas with pleasure climbing.....
Despite their resemblance to baboons, geladas are more closely related to mangabeys. In their native Ethiopian montane habitat, there are few if any trees. I'm so glad you can tell when a captive gelada is "having pleasure."
I think we all need to remember as well, this is only a small part of the exhibit
@reduakari: Could'nt quite tell if your post was a personal statement towards me. If it was and you were tryign to prove me wrong by saying gelada's aren't baboons, there is nothing in this debate that has anythign to do with there classification so I have no idea why you picked that out of the whole statement I wrote
I think we all need to remember as well, this is only a small part of the exhibit
@reduakari: Could'nt quite tell if your post was a personal statement towards me. If it was and you were tryign to prove me wrong by saying gelada's aren't baboons, there is nothing in this debate that has anythign to do with there classification so I have no idea why you picked that out of the whole statement I wrote
Not at all--I agree with your comments that defended the exhibit against the illogical criticisms being launched by zebraduiker. I just find it interesting that geladas--long-classified as baboons--have fairly recently been re-classified by taxonomists. So recently that the 1990 exhibit incorrectly uses "Baboon" in its title.
I would like to hear what anyone believes is a better exhibit--for geladas, baboons, or for that part ANY primate--at any zoo in the world than this stunning 2.5 acre landscape.
@Reduakaris. geladas are babonns, not mangabeys. But why a "captive"gelada should not have pleasure, because he is living in captivity or what ? Do you like zoos ? If not, zoochat might be defenitely the wrong place for you.
@Reduakaris. geladas are babonns, not mangabeys. But why a "captive"gelada should not have pleasure, because he is living in captivity or what ? Do you like zoos ? If not, zoochat might be defenitely the wrong place for you.
I love zoos, particularly excellent ones like the Bronx that you seem to have a serious problem with--while you appear to favor the rather monotonous regularity of places like Miami Metrozoo and Lowry Park. To each their own.
Geladas are a completely separate genus from baboons--look it up
Although often referred to as gelada baboons, these monkeys actually belong to a separate genus and are not true baboons. They are in fact the only member of their genus and the last surviving species of a once widespread group of grass-grazing primates.
I happen to agree with SnowLeopard on this one. While I haven't seen all of the baboon exhbits on the planet, I have seen all of the major baboon exhibits in the USA -- and this is clearly the best of them! It's best because:
(a) It features Geladas! To my knowledge, these are the only geladas in the USA, and they are THE most attractive baboons -- now that mandrills are no longer classified as baboons.
(b) This is a great multi-species exhibit, which is rare for baboons. It includes quite different animals with the ibexes and hyraxes.
(c) It's a very realistic simulation of an African hillside.
(d) It includes both open air views and through-glass close-up viewing.
(e) It also has a great African marketplace dining area, where visitors can sit and eat, while watching the baboons.
I happen to agree with SnowLeopard on this one. While I haven't seen all of the baboon exhbits on the planet, I have seen all of the major baboon exhibits in the USA -- and this is clearly the best of them! It's best because:
(a) It features Geladas! To my knowledge, these are the only geladas in the USA, and they are THE most attractive baboons -- now that mandrills are no longer classified as baboons.
(b) This is a great multi-species exhibit, which is rare for baboons. It includes quite different animals with the ibexes and hyraxes.
(c) It's a very realistic simulation of an African hillside.
(d) It includes both open air views and through-glass close-up viewing.
(e) It also has a great African marketplace dining area, where visitors can sit and eat, while watching the baboons.
Alan, geladas are no longer considered baboons, but as far as I know, mandrills and drills still are (though not in the genus Papio like the rest of the "true" baboons)
That however doesn't nullify any of your points whatsoever, I'm just making a taxonomic interjection.
Alan, geladas are no longer considered baboons, but as far as I know, mandrills and drills still are (though not in the genus Papio like the rest of the "true" baboons)
REALLY? I'm stunned to learn that!
Funny thing: One of the last things we had to do in preparing America's Best Zoos for publication was to go through the entire book and change all of the places we'd written "mandrill baboons" to just "mandrills" (or sometimes to "baboon-like mandrills").
