They were until around 4-5 years ago when the only group were sent from the Zoo at St-Martin La plaine to join the animals in the US.
A sensible (if very) rare move to consolidate the species on one Continent!
This seems to only happen with guenons i'm sure you can remember that zoos in CA sent the last viable Hamlyns monkeys to Europe and more recenlty San Diego sent L'hoests monkeys to Edinburgh
This seems to only happen with guenons i'm sure you can remember that zoos in CA sent the last viable Hamlyns monkeys to Europe and more recenlty San Diego sent L'hoests monkeys to Edinburgh
Indeed - hopefully all three species will be able to keep going. Who knows - maybe eventually breeding up so spreading the animals becomes desirable and we can swap some L'hoest's for some Wolf's.
Thank you - and I do indeed recall seeing this species in several collections; off the top of my head it was the Bronx, San Antonio possibly, Denver and Omha, probably more.
Indeed - hopefully all three species will be able to keep going. Who knows - maybe eventually breeding up so spreading the animals becomes desirable and we can swap some L'hoest's for some Wolf's.
I'll be honest im no expert in primate husbandry but in my opinion guenon management needs a re-think. Most species seem to be in decline and many are on the verge of disappearing all together.
Perhaps someone can explain to me why so many collections have single pairs? Surly the animals would do better in large social groups? Looking at a couple of studbooks the populations are aging and there are very few births in many species... I think we'll be lucky to have more than 2-3 species of guenon 10 years from now.
Thank you - and I do indeed recall seeing this species in several collections; off the top of my head it was the Bronx, San Antonio possibly, Denver and Omha, probably more.
Yes there are maybe a dozen US zoos with the species.
Most are descendents from the New York/San Antonio Groups. New blood was acquired from France and 3.3 W/C animals out of South Africa in 200. there used to be a breeding pair at Omaha, San Diego's pair produce offspring as do New Yorks group... many other pairings are yet to produce any offspring.
I'll be honest im no expert in primate husbandry but in my opinion guenon management needs a re-think. Most species seem to be in decline and many are on the verge of disappearing all together.
You are absolutely right. I've been wondering about the fate of the guenons for many years (after working with them in the eighties). One problem seems to be that they never received the attention that they deserve, which is strange as they are social, often colorful and fun to watch. Considering the strong interest in primates of so many people in zoo managements, the guenons certainly got the short end of the stick. Often enclosures were too small and boring. Problems in the social structure were often underestimated and rarely studied thoroughly.
Regarding the Wolf's Guenon, I saw a pair in the pet store of a big German mall in 1991. I tried to have them confiscated (with the help of the IPPL), as they had no proper paper work but the animals were moved before the authorities could act and they never showed up again ...
