Last one in the UK died a good few years ago; there aren't even any in private hands to my knowledge - however they are very common indeed on the continent.
The greater and lesser hedgehog tenrecs do indeed - obviously - look like hedgehogs but the tailless tenrec more resembles a moonrat to my eyes.
I always find it interesting how there are so many species which are very common in mainland Europe but entirely absent from the UK, despite the number of zoos there.
And I'll be happy not to see a tailless tenrec, horrible ugly things ...... but a moonrat I would love to find!
I don't think they have ever been kept alive successfully in a captive situation, so I'm not sure I'd like to see any zoos in Europe trying to import them. Although, on the other hand, I also don't see why they should be impossible to keep?
Re mammal orders, I've never seen tenrecs, elephant shrews or pangolins. (Using the Wikipedia list for ease of reference ). Although I might have seen elephant shrews after all and forgotten. Definitely not tenrecs or pangolins though. (Actually I'm almost certain that I probably saw elephant shrews in the Grzimek House and can't remember them).
I remember Singapore Zoo had tried to kept them, but only ended by releasing some colugos into the zoo and letting them lead a natural life. And in the NHNZ series "Equator IV: Borneo and Sumatra", it says that colugo eats the poisonous sap of Dipterocarps trees, thus the reason they can't survive in captive may be their diet are too strange?
BTW, have you not seen the pangolins in the zoos of Singapore or Thailand?
sadly no. I do intend to visit Singapore this trip and the pangolin will be one of my zoo priorities! I don't know of any pangolins in Thailand zoos (they have them in Taiwan though, an island I would also like to visit but not sure I will be able to make it).
I remember Singapore Zoo had tried to kept them, but only ended by releasing some colugos into the zoo and letting them lead a natural life. And in the NHNZ series "Equator IV: Borneo and Sumatra", it says that colugo eats the poisonous sap of Dipterocarps trees, thus the reason they can't survive in captive may be their diet are too strange?
BTW, have you not seen the pangolins in the zoos of Singapore or Thailand?
The ones that Singapore Zoo has cared for were injured or orphaned colugos, rather than intentionally capturing healthy individuals. I do believe the adult colugo's natural diet is too difficult to replicate. I know of some Malaysian zoos that have tried keeping colugos but with no success as well.
Re mammal orders, I've never seen tenrecs, elephant shrews or pangolins. (Using the Wikipedia list for ease of reference ). Although I might have seen elephant shrews after all and forgotten. Definitely not tenrecs or pangolins though. (Actually I'm almost certain that I probably saw elephant shrews in the Grzimek House and can't remember them).
since the above discussion took place I saw Malayan pangolins at the Singapore Night Safari and the Lok Kawi Zoo in Borneo. So just elephant shrews and tenrecs to go now.
If it's of any interest, I also have only three orders of mammals to go - colugos, pangolins and soricomorpha. But with any luck I'll see some shrews in Africa (and pangolins with a lot of luck!)
If it's of any interest, I also have only three orders of mammals to go - colugos, pangolins and soricomorpha. But with any luck I'll see some shrews in Africa (and pangolins with a lot of luck!)
I assume that, like Chlidonias, you mean orders of placental mammals - I rather doubt that anyone on this site has seen anywhere near the full set of marsupial orders considering this includes things like Microbiotheria, Notoryctemorphia and Paucituberculata which to my knowledge are found nowhere in captivity.
In terms of placental mammals, the only order I have yet to see is Dermoptera, the colugos. If one includes marsupials I also have to see Didelphimorphia, Paucituberculata, Microbiotheria, Peramelemorphia and Notoryctemorphia
I, of course, just meant placental mammals (hence my link to the orders of placental mammals). For marsupials I haven't seen any American opossums, shrew-opossums, monito del monte, or marsupial moles.
I assume that, like Chlidonias, you mean orders of placental mammals - I rather doubt that anyone on this site has seen anywhere near the full set of marsupial orders considering this includes things like Microbiotheria, Notoryctemorphia and Paucituberculata which to my knowledge are found nowhere in captivity.
In terms of placental mammals, the only order I have yet to see is Dermoptera, the colugos. If one includes marsupials I also have to see Didelphimorphia, Paucituberculata, Microbiotheria, Peramelemorphia and Notoryctemorphia
Yes, I was just following your (and Chlidonias') lead when I made my last post. As for marsupials, the first three orders you mention are the only three marsupial orders I haven't seen.
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