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Bornean clouded leopard (Neofelis diardi)

@ThylacineAlive - If you go to France it is actually not that hard. You can get 26 species (and I mean full species, not counting subspecies) just by spending one day at Parc Felins.

Surprisingly, one they do not have that is available in captivity is black footed cat, which of course I have from US zoos. (My best shot was this summer at Fresno Chaffee Zoo).

Yes I'm aware of Parc Felins. Remember, we talked about it on my Big Cats thread. http://www.zoochat.com/2/tigers-lions-leopards-oh-my-big-295148/index2.html (towards the bottom of the page)
 
Too bad.:( I wish they found Bornean Clouded Leopards hiding among the Clouded Leopard populations here in the U.S. like they did with Malayan Tigers.

They actually reclassified all IndoChinese Tigers in US zoos as Malayan Tigers, not find Malayan Tigers inside the IndoChinese Tiger population.
 
They actually reclassified all IndoChinese Tigers in US zoos as Malayan Tigers, not find Malayan Tigers inside the IndoChinese Tiger population.

Really. I thought vice versa and then Indochinese were phased-out in favore of the new subspecies but there were still a few remaining Indochinese. So there aren't any remaining Indochinese Tigers in the U.S.? I though the Brimingham Zoo still held Indochinese?:confused:
 
*Wow I can't believe you've seen that many!! Does that include subspecies? Can you name them all?:D
There should be a Feline Gallery where people can post all their feline photos. There'd be like a million lion and tiger photos, though.

*Here's all the felines I've seen (subspecies, too)-
Bobcat (Lynx rufus rufus)
Canada Lynx (Lynx canadensis canadensis)
Brazilian Ocelot (Leopardus pardalis mitis)
Texas Ocelot (Leopardus pardalis albescens)
Leopard (melanistic) (Panthera pardus genertic:D)
Snow Leopard (Uncia uncia)
Clouded Leopard (Neofelis nebulosa _____)
Fishing Cat (Prionailurus viverrinus)
Domestic Cat (Felis silvestris catus)
Caracal (Caracal caracal _____)
South African Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus jubatus)
Transvaal Lion (Panthera leo krugeri)
Sumatran Tiger (Panthera tigris sumatrae)
Malayan Tiger (Panthera tigris jacksoni)
Amur Tiger (Panthera tigris altaica)

So there's my list of the 14 feline species/subspecies that I've seen. Until quite recently I thought I'd seen Barbary Lions (Panthera leo leo) at the Smithsonian National Zoo but have since been told otherwise.:(

Oh and I forgot to add the North American Mountain LIon (Puma concolor cougar) so I've seen 15 feline species/subspecies.
 
No, Beardsley ZooFan is correct about the tiger classification. Any zoos that still claim to have indochinese are just behind the times with the renaming. (When this first came about, I got personal letters confirming the status from the SSP coordinator at Cincinnati and the mammal curator at San Diego, so I am pretty sure about this one).
 
Yup, the same happened in Europe - all the Indochinese were reclassified as Malayans. It's the same population of animals that are in the zoos, just since the subpscies was split all the current European/N American individuals are from the Malayan side of the divide. And equally, there's the odd zoo that doesn't keep up: http://www.zoochat.com/59/malayan-tiger-berlin-zoo-31-08-a-237887/

I'm not aware of any Indochinese Tigers (sensu stricto) outside of range countries (but they certainly are on show in Vietnam: http://www.zoochat.com/1778/indochinese-tiger-hanoi-zoo-15-03-a-269989/, http://www.zoochat.com/1779/indochinese-tiger-saigon-zoo-16-03-a-273219/ ).
 
@ Arizona Docent: Go to Kinabatangan River and Danum Valley in Malaysian Borneo, if you will see flat-headed cats and sunda clouded leopard, then most probably there. Both are very acessable and easy and safe to travel to. I saw a clouded leopard in Danum Valley in the middle of the day last year (and it even waited until I had taken a good picture!)!! That is very very rare, though - chances to see them at night is a little better.
 
@ Arizona Docent: Go to Kinabatangan River and Danum Valley in Malaysian Borneo, if you will see flat-headed cats and sunda clouded leopard, then most probably there. Both are very acessable and easy and safe to travel to. I saw a clouded leopard in Danum Valley in the middle of the day last year (and it even waited until I had taken a good picture!)!! That is very very rare, though - chances to see them at night is a little better.
can you show us the photo?! I only got one chance at a night drive in Danum due to the weather and little was seen, but reading back through the visitor book there, clouded leopard and marbled cats seem to be seen relatively frequently, and one person even claimed a bay cat sighting.
 
I uploaded it under Malaysia-Wildlife.

Post link please:D

Arizona Docent, BeardsleyZooFan, Maguari- Thank you. Maguari, you certainly gave the best evidence. I wasn't convinved of them all being Malayans until I read the info. on the link.:D Sad that I have to travel to Southeast Asia just to see an Indochinese Tiger. At least I still can see them (like they're not Extinct). Just looking at the possitive side. I'm personaly more worried about seeing a South China Tiger. I guess I could one dayy visit Asia and see Bengals in India, Indochinese in Thailand or Vietnam or something like that, and finally, South Chinas in China (hopefully they're not Extinct by that time).
 

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