@Ding Lingwei wow, he the first person to photograph Red goral in the wild? that is a fascinating milestone. By the way, correct me if I am wrong, but no Chinese zoo currently keeps Mishmi takin?
@Ding Lingwei did Guangzhou Zoo or Chimelong breed their Red goral? I am seeing that the Red goral at Guangzhou was mixed with Chinese serow (Capricornismilneedwardsii). How did that mix work out? And for Beijing Zoo to end up with a Naemorhedus griseus X Naemorhedus baileyi how and why did they let that happen?
@UngulateNerd92 (1) Only Sichuan and golden takins are currently kept. (2) I can't give a definite answer but all information I can find regarding captive breeding of red gorals is about the Shanghai group. (3) The hybrid in Beijing is sired by a Chinese goral after the zoo's last male red goral died.
@Ding Lingwei ah thank you. I appreciate the information. What do you know about the Red gorals at Rangoon Zoo in Myanmar kept? I believe they were the first Zoo globally to keep this species in captivity.
@Ding Lingwei ah ok. I'll tell you, one thing you might find interesting is that San Diego Zoo acquired a Red goral in the 1960s from the Rangoon Zoo, a male. In that same shipment, they acquired a female Burmese goral (Naemorhedus evansi). Out of curiosity, besides Chinese goral (Naemorhedus griseus) and Red goral (Naemorhedus baileyi), which other goral taxa have been held or are currently held in Chinese zoos?
@UngulateNerd92 I knew SD got red goral from Rangoon but the fact that they also once kept N. evansi is interesting! Regarding the goral taxa held in Chinese zoos, the only two currently held are indeed Chinese and red goral, while it is difficult to tell the species for historic holdings from textual material as they're often lumped (and signed) as N. goral back in the old days. One thing for sure is that both Beijing Zoo and Harbin Zoo kept N. caudatus in the past; the former aquired the species in the 60s and 70s as a gift from Pyongyang Zoo. Beijing also kept a N. evansi in the 1950s, based on the location of the specimen collected. Given gorals were an ABC species in Chinese zoos twenty years ago and most animals were sourced locally, it won't surprise me if there're more historic holders of N. caudatus and N. evansi (if we believe Li et. al. (2020) that the range of N. evansi extends into southwestern China).
