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Destructive Fossa at Frankfurt 31/08/10

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Not the greatest of shots, but was keen to capture this Fossa taking it out on the plastic flaps on the door to it's indoor area in the Cat House.
@I do, Toddy, I do. Because was just what they told to some people, Sorry, young man, but you don't know nothing about what is giong on in zoos behind the scens, so please stop to make the belive belive you do.

@Snowleopards. Oh no, Fossas in a Primate Building ? Thats awul. What about Hippos and Rhinos in Elephant Buildings ? Or lesser Mouse Deer in Birdhouses, or penguins in Seal pools or,or,or......
 
While the answer is obviously no, there were a few periods when the Fossa was considered to be an aberrant feline. In 1939 and again in 1995 there were papers published saying that the Fossa really was a cat. Interestingly it is no more a civet than a cat either and is more closely related to mongooses.

I believe that the newest theory is that all the carnivores in Madagascar belong to a separate group as it seems that they have evolved from the same common ancestor. This would meen that ring-tailed and narrow striped mongooses are closer related to fossas than they are to their mainland cousins.

@I do, Toddy, I do. Because was just what they told to some people, Sorry, young man, but you don't know nothing about what is giong on in zoos behind the scens, so please stop to make the belive belive you do.

Don't give me that patronizing crap. You have yourself posted faulty information not just on this subject but on many others. I know a lot about how a zoo functions working in one myself. I have never claimed to know the exact reasons behind the move in Frankfurt as I am no insider expert on this particular zoo. And you are the one who posted wrong information about the clouded leoprd/fossa switch. I am merely stating that I think it was a foolish choice and a bad descision regardless of their reasons especially if it is the one you give:

The apparant reason was to give the fossas much better living conditions.

They should simply have given up fossas if they didn't have sufficient room.

You will basically contradict anything here on ZooChat just for the sake of it, won't you?
 
I believe that the newest theory is that all the carnivores in Madagascar belong to a separate group as it seems that they have evolved from the same common ancestor. This would meen that ring-tailed and narrow striped mongooses are closer related to fossas than they are to their mainland cousins.

Indeed - most recent taxonomies place all Malagasy carnivorans in the family Eupleridae - indeed some works (such as Handbook of the Mammals of the World, Vol 1) have started using Malagasy names for the species usually referred to as 'mongooses' to reflect this change - this makes the two Malagasy 'mongooses' in European zoos into Narrow-striped Boky and Ring-tailed Votsira.
 
Maguari said:
some works (such as Handbook of the Mammals of the World, Vol 1) have started using Malagasy names for the species usually referred to as 'mongooses' to reflect this change - this makes the two Malagasy 'mongooses' in European zoos into Narrow-striped Boky and Ring-tailed Votsira.
ah yes, nothing like making the animal world more obscure to regular people! :D
 
ah yes, nothing like making the animal world more obscure to regular people! :D

Well you've been doing it in New Zealand for ages, ever since you renamed the long-beaked hairy chickens. Actually names such as narrow-striped boky and ring-tailed votsira are a horrible mixture of local and English and should also be looked down upon, in the same way that neologisms containing Greek and Latin ought to be avoided.

Is the Cat House in Frankfurt the same building that houses the lions? Because in the past it contained brown hyenas and maned wolves, although I think it was named Raubtierhaus/Carnivore House then.
 
Pygathrix said:
Well you've been doing it in New Zealand for ages, ever since you renamed the long-beaked hairy chickens.
you're even more right than you intended. Not too long ago when the brown kiwi were split into several species it was "decided" that the species in the south of New Zealand would henceforth be named the Southern Tokoeka rather than simply Southern Brown Kiwi (although oddly the northern species remains the North Island Brown Kiwi). Tokoeka is an old local Maori name meaning "weka with a walking stick" but it was a completely unnecessary name-change brought about solely by political correctness, which (for both tourists and those locals not particularly interested in wildlife) only causes confusion because no-one knows what a tokoeka is but everyone knows what a kiwi is. I personally never use the name tokoeka.
 

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