@DelacoursLangur There *is* the factor of grass, the female they have is geriatric (61 years old), and they have her cohabitating with some water buffalo (three males named after The Three Stooges IIRC). They hope to bring some more elephants in in the future, so Saigon can cohabitate properly. As is, it's a decent habitat (I would like to have seen more ha-has as opposed to cable fencing and the pool being the only barless view, and maybe some more palms, bamboo, ferns, vines, grasses, canebrakes, etc. Something to effectively make this look more like Asia.)