@UngulateNerd92 In the past decade plus I have only been once and that was on "bloom night" for members last summer to photograph the night blooming cereus. Since I have a membership that I bought specifically for that I decided to go yesterday to see what it's like during the day. There is not much there that interests me and I think the gardens and gallery at my nearby Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum are superior. I doubt I will visit again and I see no reason to renew my membership.