Burgers' Zoo A visit on 16 September 2009

Gigit

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My first visit to Burgers' Zoo following one to Apenheul the day before. I'll just give my impressions as it's been described on other threads.
My very first impression on seeing the elephants, bongo, hippos etc was that it is dated and unimaginative.
I then went into the Orangutan house (which I had not read about before) and my impression was horror. Three clinical looking divisions of an area fronted by a large moat behind glass. We looked for their outdoor enclosure, but of course there isn't one. Three orangs in each division - a mother and two youngsters, a male plus mother and baby, and another mother and two youngsters. Their enrichment - some bedding, a climbing frame, some ropes and a deflated football each. One of these was floating in the moat. The female in with the male tried to avoid him by climbing along a fake rock right at the water's edge, baby following. I could hardly look. But what made me leave in disgust was the sight of a Siamang gibbon stuck in one of the 'cells' with three orangs, clinging onto a rope while the youngster repeatedly swung at it and then threw the football at it. It had NOWHERE to go to escape and did actually bite the orang's finger. All this was going on within inches of the water.
I saw on another thread that the orangs are going to leave the zoo. Could someone please tell me that this is true and imminent.
On to better things - we enjoyed the rest of the zoo, especially Ocean and Desert and having lunch in the sun watching giraffes and zebra. A lot to see. The gorillas and chimps are obviously better catered for than the orangs but the viewing areas were crowded.
Why do European zoos charge for car parking? I don't think I've been to a British one that does, any costs presumably being included in the admission price. We bought, and printed, our entrance tickets online but still had to join the queue to buy a parking token.
If my photos are any good, and are not duplicates of those already in the Gallery, I'll upload some later.
 
Parking lot's need maintenance, and the personell who work there are certainly not volunteers. And why should it be taken in the admission price? If I come by train, I don't use the parking lot. And besides, 3 euro's for an entire day of parking ( if you wish that is), is a reasonable price, compared to other dutch zoo's, or parking in one of the major city's.

You didn't like the elephant exhibit? Yes it's not a very big one, but it's very nicely done. Burgers only keeps old elephants, who have a careless 'old day' here. The hippo, bonobo enclosures are really old, just as the orangutan exhibit. The orangutans are scheduled to leave the zoo, and will not return. There are plans for a new major exhibit at this old part of the zoo ( burgers keeps their plans secret) in 2013, with exception of the elephant enclosure.

I agree with you the orangutan enclosure isn't ideal, but I have seen them worse in duisburg, osnabruck, and artis.
 
Thanks, Johnny.
We were going to go to Duisburg on our trip but now I'm glad we didn't!
 
Duisburg isn't an awful zoo, but they have a few enclosures that are not quite ok anymore. Unfortunately, the orangutans enclosure is one of them. But the gorilla's enclosure is realy good here.
 
I personally think that the orang situation in Burgers is worse then in Duisburg, Artis and certainly Osnabruck. I am very glad they will leave soon, I have heard that one female with 2 offspring will go to Cologne (their female/daugther-pair will go to a zoo in Norway, if I remember right). The rest of the group may be moved to Gelsenkirchen, where a new orang utan house + 2 outdoor islands will be openend next year.

I really liked Rimba when I visited and the gorilla/chimps enclosures, all in all Burgers is great, I think. And it will be even better once the orangs have left.
 
I'm really glad that the orangs are leaving. We complain on Zoochat about orang enclosures at Twycross and Colchester in the UK, but they are luxurious compared to Burgers'.
 
I'm really glad that the orangs are leaving. We complain on Zoochat about orang enclosures at Twycross and Colchester in the UK, but they are luxurious compared to Burgers'.

Yes, that is very true. I was shocked by the Orangutan enclosures at Burgers Zoo too and things don't seem to have changed recently.

Yet they have that excellent Chimpanzee colony, and a Good Gorilla group and enclosure too- the reverse of what you find at(say)Twycross.
 
I've uploaded some photos of the orangutan house. I don't know if they capture the true horror of it. Why did they find it necessary to have a moat and glass? If they got rid of the moat the orangs would have more room to move about. All academic now, hopefully.
 
The enclosure were orininally outdoor enclosures, the indoor enclosure was just very small sleeping dens. Then the outdoor enclosures were built over so that the orangs could use them regardless the weather. For some strange reaons, the water moats were never filled - I would have done that years ago.. thanks god the orangs are leaving soon.
 
So that's why the building looks like it does. Their original living conditions must have been even worse.
 
I believe it was a great ape complex build in the fifties. The building is no longer from this time, I agree with that, but the term 'horrible' is exagerated. I believe the urang utans have it better here than in many other zoo's.
 
I believe it was a great ape complex build in the fifties.

Back then they also had a young pair of Gorillas, 'Robbie' and 'Walda' which lived in a similar enclosure with high walls and a ditch at the front. It seemed to be sand-floored. I saw no sign of that section when I visited some years back.
 
I believe it was a great ape complex build in the fifties. The building is no longer from this time, I agree with that, but the term 'horrible' is exagerated. I believe the urang utans have it better here than in many other zoo's.

That doesn't actually make me feel any better!
 
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