Animal LIberationists!! >:(

ZYBen

ZYBen

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a freind of mine gets quite a few rescued animals, one of these was a nankeen kestral, she was beatutiful, but unfortunatly broke her wing badly and couldnt be released. he has had the bird for about a year now, until monday.

His nextdoor neighbours girlfreind in an crazy Animal Libber and is renowned as one of those crazy ones that break into farms etc... well to put it straight, the kestral is missing, there were no feathers in the aviary, no tears in the wire, and all the other birds were fine ( Curlews, Mandarins, Plovers).

so if you put 2 and 2 together what do you get?

This really annoys me, this poor bird may have been released, and most certainly is dead now.
 
Animal liberation and animal welfare are two contradictory principles.

Animal liberation is all about non interferance. They are happy to allow species to become extinct or suffer while dieing slowly. Their whole principle is to let nature take its course. Any suffering is fine as long as people are not involved.

Animal welfare is about managing animals to prevent suffering. I have no time for animal liberationsts.
 
Aminal liberation people broke into a mink farm (in the days when the UK still had them), about 20 miles from where I live. In the name of animal freedom they liberated all the caged mink, they had no regard for the devastation their act would have on native wildlife and farm animals.
 
Animal liberation people have no concept of nature, rather a very peculiar anthropogenic view of wildlife. Neither do they understand fully the concept of animal welfare of wellbeing. Their complete disregard and disdain for any species maintained in captivity really puts them on the spot. Their actions speak louder than words, but do not benefit even in the slightest the conservation of endangered species both in situ or in captivity. May they rest in peace forever!

Real shame about your bird of prey ...!
 
bongorob said:
Aminal liberation people broke into a mink farm (in the days when the UK still had them), about 20 miles from where I live. In the name of animal freedom they liberated all the caged mink, they had no regard for the devastation their act would have on native wildlife and farm animals.
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They did the same in the area where I live. About 600 Mink were set free- the corpses of dozens of dead ones littered a nearby dual carriageway the next day and a high proportion of the survivors would have starved to death before learning to catch prey- so their 'kindness' in freeing them was rather misguided to say the least.
 
quite a few years ago a group of animal libbers broke into Taronga and spraypainted messages on a numer of the exhibits. the wrote on the seal pools tath the seals are sick of eating fish.?!?!?!?! what are they supposed to eat??!?! fruit?

the remenants of the act can still be seen across the back wall of the chimps where there are painted squares on the brick work coverind up the grafiti
 
they just have no idea, if they cared about animals they can see zoos are there for education and animal ambassadors, i think we all here agree about 'let nature take it's course', but nature as in NATURE - 'the wild', as animals in zoos have never really had a wild upbrininging, many animals are captive born, and have no idea of the wild, and throwing them into the wild is cruel.
 
exactly where do you even begin to draw the line? where does nature and natural begin and end these days? no species anywhere is immune to the effects of human kind=therefore stewardship, and not leaving nature to 'just takes it course' is possibly the best ay of preserving. which is why animal liberation is a flawed consept. their opposition to te californian condor recovery project is an excellent example
 
The extreme animal libs want to stop all contact between humans and the animal world. They are of course oppossed to zoos and circuses, eating meat or using any products of an animal (including milk, eggs and wool.) But did you know that they also want people to stop keeping pets. There are groups who ar anti people going on tours to look at animals, eg safari tours in Africa and even just watching birds through binoculars in your own backyard ( I once was told by someon that I was intruding on a birds privacy because I was watching a sea eagle flying overhead!)
 
Saw a story on television recently about a mad animal libber with a pet (Oops, sorry, "companion") dog and she was making the poor mongrel live as a vegetarian.

That to me is gross animal abuse.
 
They have no concept of the reality of animals. I have often heard of dogs being forced to be vegetarian.
 
The Animal Liberation Front and similar organisations have been and partly still are a problematic and sometimes even dangerous nuisance for most animal-keeping institutions, may they be farms, zoos, Circus/rodeo or laboratories-even though their prime time seems to have been the early 1980s-1990s. Their radical, uncompromising and sometimes criminal attitude makes it difficult to sheer impossible to find common ground with. However, one has to differ between the various organisations, as there is a wide range of opinions and approaches, from rather "reasonable", mislead animal lovers to inhumane criminals and terrorists. Quite often, the lack of actual knowledge about animals, the ignorance of consequences of their acts and their fanatical belief in rather irrealistic conceptions create a dangerous mixture for all people and animals involved. See the vegetarian or even vegan feeding of their pet dogs or especially cats-which does contradict animal rights rules in some countries, or the example of the poor Nankeen Kestrel. Pretty much every zoo has at least once dealed with such people, and it looks like there is no end...

There's a nice little Sci-Fi short-story called "Last Rights" by Mercedes Lackey and Larry Dixon, which mocks this animal libbie attitude: Three animal liberationists break into a kind of "Jurassic Park" institution in order to free the dinosaurs. However, they have no clue of what awaits them...;)
 
Sun Wukong said:
There's a nice little Sci-Fi short-story called "Last Rights" by Mercedes Lackey and Larry Dixon, which mocks this animal libbie attitude
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Thanks! Baen books made it available free here: Fiddler Fair by Mercedes Lackey - Baen Books

What to say?

Two years ago some activists apparently broke into animal park Langenberg just outside Zurich. They sprayed some slogans on walls and cut fences for some deer, wild boar etc. They remained in their enclosures. Only wildcat moved to the nearby old bear enclosure. I guess these were wrong animals. ;)

What irritates me particularly is that there are lots of real animal cruelty. But they waste time on these...
 
Jurek7 said:
What irritates me particularly is that there are lots of real animal cruelty. But they waste time on these...
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That really bugs me, too. The time that they put into defacing zoo property, they could spend it on setting up spay/neuter clinics.
 
Good idea, bad idea.

Good idea- torturing all humans torture animals.

Bad idea- keeping animals in cages (except extremely rare species that should then be returned to the wild).

Good idea- releasing all animals held against their will, no matter what crimes you commit to get them out or what "humans" suffer in the process.

Bad idea- not thinking the plan through and hurting more animals than you tried to protect.
 
Hi moreton, i didnt know that Brisbane was in Utopia?
Your ideas are all good in theroy but are all bogus in practice.
 
moreton said:
Good idea- torturing all humans torture animals.

Bad idea- keeping animals in cages (except extremely rare species that should then be returned to the wild).

Good idea- releasing all animals held against their will, no matter what crimes you commit to get them out or what "humans" suffer in the process.

Bad idea- not thinking the plan through and hurting more animals than you tried to protect.
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I think its a good idea that some zoos have saved quite a number of species from extiction and have even returned some of those species back into protected areas :), in some cases there is no place left for them in the wild so zoos are better than the extiction of the species is it not ;)
 
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