Chester Zoo Asian Plains

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Chester have fenced of a small area for the Indian Rhinos. Probably due to the fact the enclosure is like one giant mud wallow. The black buck and Brown antler deer are being kept in a paddock at the back.
 
Chester have fenced of a small area for the Indian Rhinos. Probably due to the fact the enclosure is like one giant mud wallow. The black buck and Brown antler deer are being kept in a paddock at the back.

Pertinax was right. The rhinos were turning the whole area into a swamp.
 
I went on Wednesday. The Indian rhinos weren't out, was this maybe something to do with the cold or ice?
 
I am concerned about the drainage of many of the paddocks at Chester. Very few of the ungulates were out on their paddocks on Saturday (just the lechwe, Beisa oryx, sitatunga, guanaco and the Philippine spotted deer whose hooves were sinking into the mud). The open-air enclosures on both sides of ROTRA were very wet too. Even the sand for the onagers and the scimitar-horned oryx looked very wet and muddy. As I mentioned in a previous post, there was a digger and a large hole in the big Tsavo paddock, with water welling up from beside the path near the meerkat sculpture. I can't remember seeing anything like it before.
I know we've had wet weather recently and any zoo can have muddy paddocks at this time of year, but I can't help thinking think that something may be going badly wrong.

Alan
 
I am concerned about the drainage of many of the paddocks at Chester. Very few of the ungulates were out on their paddocks on Saturday (just the lechwe, Beisa oryx, sitatunga, guanaco and the Philippine spotted deer whose hooves were sinking into the mud). The open-air enclosures on both sides of ROTRA were very wet too. Even the sand for the onagers and the scimitar-horned oryx looked very wet and muddy. As I mentioned in a previous post, there was a digger and a large hole in the big Tsavo paddock, with water welling up from beside the path near the meerkat sculpture. I can't remember seeing anything like it before.
I know we've had wet weather recently and any zoo can have muddy paddocks at this time of year, but I can't help thinking think that something may be going badly wrong.

Alan

It sounds really bad :(. Just a quick question, is beisa oryx another name for Gemsbok because the two seem to look extremely similar and i thought that chester only have gemsbok but gentlelemur put beisa oryx as one of the ungulates that were out. The thing that confuses me is that in kenya, we saw some 'Beisa Oryx' as our guide described them but if they are the same, then i thought gemsbok only lived in southern africa?????? Thanks in advance.
 
Chester's built on very heavy clay soil - that's why they have all the canals and such - it was taking advantage of the local conditions. This does mean, however, that they do get drainage problems. The Asian Plains animals generally had restricted access to the paddock in winter even in the pre-rhino days.
 
The Beisa Oryx and Gemsbok are 2 different species, of which Chester house the Gemsbok.

Of course! I did know that, just a brainfart I'm afraid. They did keep Beisa oryx where the warty pigs are now, but that was 50 years ago :o

Alan
 
Oryx gazella has traditionally been treated as one species with five subspecies, two of which are the gemsbok (O.g.gazella) of southwest Africa and the beisa (O.g.beisa) of the Horn of Africa. Fairly recently taxonomists have split O.beisa from O.gazella. As is usually the case in taxonomy, not everyone agrees with this split, but for those that do the gemsbok and beisa are now two species (with the latter including the fringe-eared oryx as a subspecies, O.b.callotis)
 
Oryx gazella has traditionally been treated as one species with five subspecies, two of which are the gemsbok (O.g.gazella) of southwest Africa and the beisa (O.g.beisa) of the Horn of Africa. Fairly recently taxonomists have split O.beisa from O.gazella. As is usually the case in taxonomy, not everyone agrees with this split, but for those that do the gemsbok and beisa are now two species (with the latter including the fringe-eared oryx as a subspecies, O.b.callotis)

Affirmative (from a zoological expert on genus Oryx)! :eek:
 
Pertinax was right. The rhinos were turning the whole area into a swamp.

I won't say I told you so but I knew this would happen. I remember the original(very first) Indian Rhino enclosure at Whipsnade and it used to be a morass of mud in winter, and hard-baked earth in a dry summer. When the Indian rhinos first arrived there (before even my time) I've seen photos and the enclosure was good pasture, but these animals are so heavy they churn up any paddock, let alone one on clay and prevent any grass growth permanently for as long as they use it. Whipsnade's current Indian rhino enclosures are much, much larger and now stay green apart from the regular pathways they use and the areas around their wallows.

If I were Chester I would not try and keep them with the deer and antelope anymore.
 
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Chester have been giving them limited access to the main paddock, however they do tend to spend most of their time indoors. If will be months now before the weather really improves, so they have fenced it off to enusre the paddock can recover.
 
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the first (and sadly only time) i've been to chester i didn't think the indian rhinos were out, until i was later informed by my sisters that the rocks were in fact the rhino's in the mud wallow. at first i didn't believe her at all...up until the point bubbles appeared from beneath the mud and i could finally see the rhino!
 
the first (and sadly only time) i've been to chester i didn't think the indian rhinos were out, until i was later informed by my sisters that the rocks were in fact the rhino's in the mud wallow. at first i didn't believe her at all...up until the point bubbles appeared from beneath the mud and i could finally see the rhino!

You do have to check pools, but in this really cold weather they do prefer to be in most of the time.
 
2 sections of Asian plains were fenced off today

- the sandy area close to the elephant bridge
- the area with the mud wallows

It looks they are letting the grass in the middle section grow back again by allowing the hoofstock access to the sandy bit and the rhino access to the wallows.
 
2 sections of Asian plains were fenced off today

- the sandy area close to the elephant bridge
- the area with the mud wallows

It looks they are letting the grass in the middle section grow back again by allowing the hoofstock access to the sandy bit and the rhino access to the wallows.
Was like that yesterday as well forgot to note it in here so thanks czjimmy for doing it some how don`t think itwill work unless we get a dry spring and summer!!!!
 
Was like that yesterday as well forgot to note it in here so thanks czjimmy for doing it some how don`t think itwill work unless we get a dry spring and summer!!!!

You're right it wont work unless they seriously look at investing in some decent drainage. However 2 tonne of rhino walk over the top will probably break any pipe they lied under ground. Even soakaways or filter drains would not help enough.
 
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