I think it's absolutely appalling that the government chose to do nothing and let this species become extinct without even attempting to save it.
Unmourned death of a sole survivor
Hix
Unmourned death of a sole survivor
Hix
Australian Govt allows a species to go extinct
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nanoboy
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I think it's absolutely appalling that the government chose to do nothing and let this species become extinct without even attempting to save it.
Unmourned death of a sole survivor
Hix
Terrible! There is only one thing that Christmas Island is famous for these days so it breaks my heart that the native species do not get the recognition they deserve.
The article in its entirety is worth a read, as it mentions some of the other species we allowed to go extinct - many of them, deliberately. I always find fascinating the fact that some of the most numerous and widespread of species could go extinct through human persecution in the blink of an eye.
I agree that is a good article by Flannery.
One of his most important points is
One of his most important points is
Governments seem to overexcited about creating new parks without doing enough about managing the parks appropriately. Some parks are even created because of of an areas good environment and diversity, but in creating the park they change the management and destroy what they hope the park will protect.
nanoboy
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Like what?
Hands on management of endangered species, habitat management and predator control. All with quite some more succes then in Australia. DoC is far from perfect, but they are good in increasing the numbers of their endangered species. They have a very hands-on approach and some species are managed on an individual base. Yes there have been ****-ups before and yes they lost species they could have saved if some decission were taken earlier, but they took the lessons and used them.
I would like to see the number of staff members of DoC and compare them with the amount of staff of all environmental departments on state and federal level in Australia. And then as well see how much of these staff works on conservation programmes in both countries. To give a comparrison: In New Zealand there was a possible Kakapo sighting (or more a hearing) and staff are being send in. In Australia there were 2 night parrots found (yes dead ones but still) and nothing happens (to be fair in Western Australia possible sightings have been followed up although this did not lead to immediate action).
I have some more frustrations but I will leave it with this, but there have been some programmes not everything that is possible (with reasonable means) is being done. Or that some things that needed to be done only started very late. If you want I can give more examples by pm.
I would like to see the number of staff members of DoC and compare them with the amount of staff of all environmental departments on state and federal level in Australia. And then as well see how much of these staff works on conservation programmes in both countries. To give a comparrison: In New Zealand there was a possible Kakapo sighting (or more a hearing) and staff are being send in. In Australia there were 2 night parrots found (yes dead ones but still) and nothing happens (to be fair in Western Australia possible sightings have been followed up although this did not lead to immediate action).
I have some more frustrations but I will leave it with this, but there have been some programmes not everything that is possible (with reasonable means) is being done. Or that some things that needed to be done only started very late. If you want I can give more examples by pm.
*The Thylacine, the White-Footed Rabbit Rat, the Toolache Wallaby, the Christmas Island Pipistrelle, different species, same story. Wiped out by man. The Thylacine could have been saved, too. They breed in captivity, the knowledge was there but the government wouldn't do anything about it. The thing I most disagree with in that article (I have to get ready for school soon so I didn't get to read the whole thing yet) so far is that they said the government thinks it's better to save an ecosystem rather than one species. Well, animals help make up the species and everytime a species goes Extinct the ecosystem is damaged more and more until they've failed their duty of protecting it by refusing to protect the little parts (sometimes huge parts) that make up the whole thing.
Is there anyone else that could have helped save the species without direct funding from the Australian government? WWF perhaps?
I don't know if it would do any good but all you members in Australia should have as many people as possible sign a petition asking the government to do more for the continents endangered wildlife.
*I'm leaving my personal opinions and beliefs out of this post guys.
Is there anyone else that could have helped save the species without direct funding from the Australian government? WWF perhaps?
I don't know if it would do any good but all you members in Australia should have as many people as possible sign a petition asking the government to do more for the continents endangered wildlife.
*I'm leaving my personal opinions and beliefs out of this post guys.
Thylacines never bred in zoos. There are a few instances in which mothers were captured along with their cubs and transported to zoos, which has led some people to assume that those cubs were born in captivity. From memory one such instance of mother and cubs being caught together was by Walter Mullins in 1924.
I made an error there. That false information came out of a very fake TV show and I must have let it slip in, sorry. Still, the Thylacine could have been saved.
Hey, my 1,000th post!! I don't know wether to be happy or ashamed
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Don't get me started on how many species could have been saved :/ According to my database 4,000 +...
ThylacineAlive;621963 Is there anyone else that could have helped save the species without direct funding from the Australian government? WWF perhaps? I don't know if it would do any good but all you members in Australia should have as many people as possible sign a petition asking the government to do more for the continents endangered wildlife. QUOTE said:
Did the trees end up being cut down?
Here I thought Australia was doing a lot for their endangered animals with their work with Tasmanian Devil, Gilbert's Potoroo, and Helmeted Honeyeaters but it appears I was greatly mistaken. As it said in the article I thought we lived in a more civilized and sofisticated age where we wouldn't allow species to go Extinct without a fight but it appears I was wrong. Shout out to those who tried to save the bat.
nanoboy
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Did the trees end up being cut down?
Here I thought Australia was doing a lot for their endangered animals with their work with Tasmanian Devil, Gilbert's Potoroo, and Helmeted Honeyeaters but it appears I was greatly mistaken. As it said in the article I thought we lived in a more civilized and sofisticated age where we wouldn't allow species to go Extinct without a fight but it appears I was wrong. Shout out to those who tried to save the bat.
The article on this thread helps to explain why apathy is the norm rather than the exception. http://www.zoochat.com/65/morality-conservation-301202/
Did the trees end up being cut down?
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Not yet, I'm not sure what the legality is of cutting trees down on acreage on the Sunshine Coast.I know that here in Brisbane you need council permission which is hard to get if you are a simple resident but seeminglyeasy if you are a devloper.