Best UK Okapi enclosure

Best UK Okapi enclosure?


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britishzoofan

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This is just a bit of fun to judge the general consensus on the best enclosure for Okapi's in the UK. I have added a few photos from the gallery to make it easier for members to compare the different exhibits. If anyone wants to make an argument for a particular enclosure, please feel free to do so. Also, I would encourage people to perhaps list the enclosures in order of what they determine to be the best.

YWP

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Wild Place

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Chester

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London

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Marwell

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The Okapi at YWP have now moved a little - The Roloway monkeys now have their old house/far paddock. There has been a new house built closer to the Hoofstock barn.
 
I was not speaking about visitor viewing but enclosure for the okapis larger than stables. In Chester but also in Wuppertal, Rotterdam, Beekse Bergen, and others places in Europe there are some real indoor enclosure where they can better move (than in stables) during cold time.
 
I think I'm going to vote Wild Place due to the woodland environment but the indoor area is just a shed. Outside are five enclosures, four are small, probably not much bigger than the enclosures that they had at Bristol. The fifth is large and very wooded but I don't know how access to this enclosure is arranged, whether it is shared between all of them on a timeshare bases? It's a shame nowhere has a setup like Rotterdam.
 
I probably won't vote in this one as none really stand out; from my rather hazy memory Marwell's enclosure seemed quite good, and would probably get my vote by default. The only one I'm really familiar with is Chester's, which I find underwhelming, and I haven't seen the new YWP one yet, although the temporary one wasn't anything special.
 
Dublin's enclosure is really nice, but can't count it, of course. I agree with PaleoMatt that most enclosures for this stunning species are underwhelming. Yet, lush, sheltered British woodland could be used more creatively. They seem to like peace and quiet and it often annoys me at London, YWP & Chester when visitors are so loud. It feels like Marwell and WildPlace have a sense of calm about them that feels more appropriate for Okapi. I do think that a huge indoor paddock with loads of foliage (like Chesters Jaguar exhibit) would do this species justice and maybe use a walled garden approach with bird hide type viewing would shield the Okapi from visitors?
 
Score update. Wild Place currently lead by 7 votes over Chester who themselves are 3 ahead of Marwell. Wild Place's lead is partly due to its wooded outdoor exhibit which allows it to stand out from the rest. Chester has performed well due to its good indoor stables for the species and Marwell as it gives them a spacious outdoor exhibit.

As others have mentioned the standard of Okapi exhibits in the UK is nothing special with there being no true amazing enclosure.
 
Dublin's enclosure is really nice, but can't count it, of course. I agree with PaleoMatt that most enclosures for this stunning species are underwhelming. Yet, lush, sheltered British woodland could be used more creatively. They seem to like peace and quiet and it often annoys me at London, YWP & Chester when visitors are so loud. It feels like Marwell and WildPlace have a sense of calm about them that feels more appropriate for Okapi. I do think that a huge indoor paddock with loads of foliage (like Chesters Jaguar exhibit) would do this species justice and maybe use a walled garden approach with bird hide type viewing would shield the Okapi from visitors?

I last visited Marwell about 8years ago and if I remember correctly they had signs up around the exhibit asking visitors to be quite.
 
I'd be interested to know why people have voted Chester as #1 - I don't recall it being all that great but we don't get to Chester all that often so maybe I am just not as familiar with it.
 
I'd be interested to know why people have voted Chester as #1 - I don't recall it being all that great but we don't get to Chester all that often so maybe I am just not as familiar with it.

I think its largely due to weak competition to be honest! Wild Place is the current favourite but I'd guess is the collection that least people on here have visited, hence a lot will probably choose the best of the rest. As I stated earlier I haven't voted in this one as the only ones I've seen were either underwhelming (Chester) or a long time ago and barely remembered (Marwell). For what its worth I don't think Chester's okapi accommodation is any more than average.
 
I'd be interested to know why people have voted Chester as #1 - I don't recall it being all that great but we don't get to Chester all that often so maybe I am just not as familiar with it.

I think its largely due to weak competition to be honest.........For what its worth I don't think Chester's okapi accommodation is any more than average.

In point of fact, I would contend not only that Chester's exhibit complex for Okapi is better than the one at Wild Place, but that I suspect those people voting for the latter collection have been swayed by misleading photography and an automatic assumption that Wild Place must be better because it is the newest exhibit ;) and possibly also a desire to vote against Chester.

Firstly, although Wild Place is certainly the second-best Okapi exhibit in the UK, a few points must be noted; it covers rather less space than the Chester exhibit complex does, at 2,100 m² in total as opposed to the 2,700 m² exhibit complex at Chester. Moreover, the complex is standing mostly empty, with several of the 5 paddocks mentioned by @Ned currently unoccupied due to the fact the collection is down to 0,2 individuals..... and as already noted, these individuals occupy a rather small and pokey indoor shed. I am not sure which exhibits are occupied and which are unoccupied, so I don't know whether the current inhabitants have access to it, but judging from Google Maps the "large and very wooded" exhibit which Ned mentioned is 675 m².

Secondly, the exhibit complex at Chester is both larger and more lushly-vegetated than the single photograph provided by BZF would indicate; this image depicts approximately one-third of a single paddock and therefore does a poor job of representing the exhibit complex as a whole, which comprises the following:

1) A pair of linked outdoor enclosures connected to the main indoor house
2) A large onshow indoor paddock with offshow housing elsewhere in the house
3) A secondary indoor house which is entirely offshow
4) A semi-offshow outdoor paddock which is fed by the secondary house and can only be viewed from afar across a canal.

Currently, I believe the complex as a whole contains 2,2 individuals, plus a number of Red Natal Duiker which share the main house and paddocks. It is worth noting that the indoor viewing for the species is rather better in quality than is the case at other UK collections too - not only is the indoor paddock a lot larger than is the case elsewhere, but unlike elsewhere it comprises more than a mere stable pen. Moreover, the lighting in the indoor area is deliberately kept low, and viewing is obtained through scattered small windows and mesh, which helps to provide the inhabitants with some degree of privacy and areas within the paddock where they can avoid view, along with light levels closer to that found in their natural habitat.

Main paddocks:

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Interior viewing window and portion of the onshow indoor paddock:

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Semi-offshow paddock:

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In point of fact, I would contend not only that Chester's exhibit complex for Okapi is better than the one at Wild Place, but that I suspect those people voting for the latter collection have been swayed by misleading photography and an automatic assumption that Wild Place must be better because it is the newest exhibit ;) and possibly also a desire to vote against Chester.

Firstly, although Wild Place is certainly the second-best Okapi exhibit in the UK, a few points must be noted; it covers rather less space than the Chester exhibit complex does, at 2,100 m² in total as opposed to the 2,700 m² exhibit complex at Chester. Moreover, the complex is standing mostly empty, with several of the 5 paddocks mentioned by @Ned currently unoccupied due to the fact the collection is down to 0,2 individuals..... and as already noted, these individuals occupy a rather small and pokey indoor shed. I am not sure which exhibits are occupied and which are unoccupied, so I don't know whether the current inhabitants have access to it, but judging from Google Maps the "large and very wooded" exhibit which Ned mentioned is 675 m².

Secondly, the exhibit complex at Chester is both larger and more lushly-vegetated than the single photograph provided by BZF would indicate; this image depicts approximately one-third of a single paddock and therefore does a poor job of representing the exhibit complex as a whole, which comprises the following:

1) A pair of linked outdoor enclosures connected to the main indoor house
2) A large onshow indoor paddock with offshow housing elsewhere in the house
3) A secondary indoor house which is entirely offshow
4) A semi-offshow outdoor paddock which is fed by the secondary house and can only be viewed from afar across a canal.

Currently, I believe the complex as a whole contains 2,2 individuals, plus a number of Red Natal Duiker which share the main house and paddocks. It is worth noting that the indoor viewing for the species is rather better in quality than is the case at other UK collections too - not only is the indoor paddock a lot larger than is the case elsewhere, but unlike elsewhere it comprises more than a mere stable pen. Moreover, the lighting in the indoor area is deliberately kept low, and viewing is obtained through scattered small windows and mesh, which helps to provide the inhabitants with some degree of privacy and areas within the paddock where they can avoid view, along with light levels closer to that found in their natural habitat.

Main paddocks:

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Interior viewing window and portion of the onshow indoor paddock:

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Semi-offshow paddock:

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Entirely agreed - Chester have a great breeding record to boot. Wild Place is a strong second place contender for sure (certainly better than Marwell, Yorkshire and London), but the superior indoors and numbers alone secure the win for Chester in my eyes.
 
In point of fact, I would contend not only that Chester's exhibit complex for Okapi is better than the one at Wild Place, but that I suspect those people voting for the latter collection have been swayed by misleading photography and an automatic assumption that Wild Place must be better because it is the newest exhibit ;) and possibly also a desire to vote against Chester.

Thank you very much for your extremely detailed response and I imagine it will definitely swing the votes of quite a few members in Chester's favour.

It is extremely useful when someone provides an explanation like this because it is not always the case that the photos are a fair reflection of the exhibits because I am only selecting one for each exhibit, this benefits some collections more than others.
 
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