Cheetah reintroduction

I dont like the idea of introducing African cheetah into India! I think they should build up the Asian population before they even consider reintroductions. their money would be much better spent on an Asian breeding program if you ask me

BBC NEWS | South Asia | India plans return of the cheetah

The programme is ill-advised. However, an Asiatic cheetah breeding programme can only succeed if the Iranian authorities commit to it. So, India is basically on a wild goose chase here!

For India its priorities must lay with instating first working coop captive breeding programmes for their native species. The recent introduction of S.African cheetah to Junagadh Zoo is a starter. However, before they can even dream of acquiring any cheetah from Iran, they must first set up and operate a successful captive-breeding programme for African cheetah.

Realistically the latter is say 10-15 years down the line ... (if at all).

Our focus as far as Asiatic cheetah should be on effective in situ conservation and protected area management. Secondly, in order to more swiftly increase Asiatic cheetah numbers commit to a captive-breeding operation in Tehran's Pardisan Park for a future re-release programme.
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Interesting article, & very debateable. I personally think India should focus on protecting what big cats it has left, before bringing back one it has already lost. The entire wild asiatic lion population is confined to a single park. Every other week i hear and read about India's tigers dissapearing from various protected areas, & leopard/human conflict & death is on the news all the time. It would be great to see the cheetah thriving in India again but i think they should concentrate on not losing another big cat before bringing back another one.
 
Interesting article, & very debateable. I personally think India should focus on protecting what big cats it has left, before bringing back one it has already lost. The entire wild asiatic lion population is confined to a single park. Every other week i hear and read about India's tigers dissapearing from various protected areas, & leopard/human conflict & death is on the news all the time. It would be great to see the cheetah thriving in India again but i think they should concentrate on not losing another big cat before bringing back another one.

Good point also. India is not exactly succeeding in securing and conserving its wild populations of native wildlife.

Prime examples: Indian elephant (decreasing), Indian rhino (increasing, yet seemingly unstoppable poaching), Asiatic lion (increasing, but so vulnerable due to restricted range/habitat and political sabotage), Bengal tiger (still decreasing and disappearing from major Project Tiger reserves), Himalayan tahr (yes, not just the Nilgiri is endangered, so is the sister taxon from up north), Kashmir red deer or hangul (under pressure from poaching in ... unstable and one population), Manipur brow-antlered (under pressure and restricted to one habitat without availability of any corridors to other areas), wild buffalo (low population and restricted range), Lion-tailed macaque and Nilgiri langur (restricted habitat and under pressure from encroachment), hoolock gibbon (fragmented habitat and unviable populations) ....

This list can continue for another page or so .... :eek:


I wish the Indian authorities good luck and wisdom in dealing with local wildlife conservation issues before indulging in bringing back a species that has been gone from the country for more than a century ....!
 
Does anybody know the source of info 'indian and african cheetah are so geneticaly similar, that mixing should not be a problem' mentioned in the news?
 
Does anybody know the source of info 'indian and african cheetah are so geneticaly similar, that mixing should not be a problem' mentioned in the news?

I assume - though not 100% sure - that the source is Dr. Stephen O"Brien. He is a reknowned US geneticist and somehow well-connected.
However, having said that, he is the author of the ill-fated suggestion that most African leopard should be assigned to one subspecies and lumping the entire myriad of subspecies of Middle Eastern origin to one subspecies. It has since been shown genetically that his findings had been wrong and based on small and very incomplete sample sizes. I always keep underlining in any genetics research that you while researching genetics you cannot never ignore significant morphological, bio-geographical and taxonomic differences between subspecies (the classic kulan-onager is an example of bio-geographical separation - where genetics has not yet been able to discern genetic differences).

In the case of the cheetah conventional wisdom had it that all cheetah had been through a genetic bottleneck and therefore genetically pretty much homogenic and hence vulnerable to zoonotic diseases and reduced survivability. It has since been shown to be complete ballony as it was based upon research of southern African cheetah alone (the E.African sample included was hideously small and totally insufficient) and thankfully we now have separate breeding programmes for southern and N-E African cheetah. I will make a case here for continual separation for the Saharan, E.African cheetah and the Asiatic cheetah.

Note 1: I know of no in-depth genetics studies into representative samples of E.African cheetah, Saharan cheetah or Asiatic cheetah. It is certainly a priority ... but I am convinced that when done it will allign with my conviction outlined in the last part of the last paragraph.

Note 2: There has not even been any museum studies of Indian cheetah in natural history collections and even if it had it would have to have been supported by comparative studies in other natural history collections on known Asiatic cheetahs. Historical genetics research on Asiatic cheetah again - to my knowledge - has never been attempted.

I can not phantom what possesses respected scientists to make incorrect or even down-right inaccurate claims as has been done over the Indian cheetah reintroduction project and to somehow imply that there is no difference between Asiatic and African cheetah. This not only goes for the US involvement, but equally for the Indian side (+ the Iranians have previously politely refused to hand over some Asiatic cheetah ... not surprising since the source population is so small and first needs to be recovered ... before we can even hope to take the subspecies elsewhere).
 
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