Chester Zoo Chester - changes & demolition

Woodbine

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We had time for a quick visit to the zoo today, so thought we’d go and have a look at some of the changes mentioned in these threads. For the first time I can remember I felt very unhappy as we went round the zoo– in fact, at times, I felt angry rather than simply unhappy. It may be just me, but I’m beginning to feel that I cannot understand at all what’s happening there. Firstly, why are both the rows of reptile houses off show in the Tropical House? As has already been said, there is now a permanent-looking wooden barrier in front of the former row of windows, and all that seems to be happening is that the path area is being replaced with deep plant beds. It’s not so much the irritation of not being able to see the reptiles any more, as the plethora of signs trying to imply that they’re apologetic about it, and that it is in someway for the visitors’ benefit that gets me. Why, oh why, can’t they replace these with an explanation of what’s going on, and why? How can they put up signs saying that they hope we’ll ‘understand’ what’ they’re doing, when they don’t bother to explain? They must be aware that many people have been visiting the zoo for decades, and are intelligent beings who care very much about it.
I felt the same about the area near Islands in Danger that used to be the round aviaries, the former children’s zoo (where are the porcupines?), and the old otter enclosure. All they seem to be doing is destroying parts of the zoo and replacing them with muddy, half planted beds and grassy areas – and all with NO explanations at all. The zoo’s slogan used to be ‘Always Building’ – now it should maybe be changed to ‘Always Demolishing’ or ‘Always Spoiling the Visitors’ View’.
Maybe there’s a good reason for these changes, and obviously the animal’s welfare is paramount. However, the zoo is an expensive day out for non-members, and I can’t see that these muddy patches and sudden closures of favourite areas are going to help attract visitors. I would think that even non-regular visitors might be happier about changes if good reasons were given, or details of what is planned in these areas for the future were given.

(The final straw, though in many ways less significant, was the tacky paper plates and cups in the Ark Restaurant – even soup now comes in a flimsy paper cup. How this endless use of new items is better for the environment than washing ordinary crockery and cutlery in a modern energy and water efficient dishwater I can’t imagine. It also gives the place a down-at-heel, tawdry feeling, in my opinion. Unfortunately this is not reflected in the high prices – something that is mentioned on countless on-line reviews of the zoo, but which is seemingly ignored by the zoo staff.)
 
I love the zoo but may find it hard to get there next year as the 4 local coach companies have stated to myself when I got in touch with them that they would not be running any coaches to Chester Zoo next year because of cost's. When I asked about the cost's they said it was too expensive to make there trips viable as they struggled this year.
Yet on 3 of the coach company's calander's for next year thier are trips to West Midlands Safari Park, Twycross, Bristol, Blackpool, Paington & Edinburgh / Highland Wildlife Park I hope this is not a trend that other coach company's start too take.
I found on my last visit that they were a bit pricey for what they gave you.
the animal collection is one of the best in the country but after that they could make improvements
 
The tropical realm seems to be having a make over and the glass fronted enclosures are being replaced with much nicer open air enclosures. Someone please correct me if am wrong but why place panels of glass if it was just a planted area.
 
Hi Taun,

Those open-air enclosures can't be for the existing reptiles as the snakes, etc, would just escape! I'm all for getting close to the animals, but that would be a little too much of a good thing! What sort of creatures can they keep in smallish shallow, open-top enclosures like these? Any suggestions? :confused: (Similarly, does anyone know what will be happening in the muddy areas where the children's zoo, otters and aviaries used to be? Will they all be picnic areas?)
 
Hi Taun,

Those open-air enclosures can't be for the existing reptiles as the snakes, etc, would just escape! I'm all for getting close to the animals, but that would be a little too much of a good thing! What sort of creatures can they keep in smallish shallow, open-top enclosures like these? Any suggestions? :confused: (Similarly, does anyone know what will be happening in the muddy areas where the children's zoo, otters and aviaries used to be? Will they all be picnic areas?)
The G Tortoise are moving into the area nearest to them,if what I`ve been told is right,also the other area may have some small glass Vivs put in between the planting.As for the childrens zoo etc it may well be getting ready for phase 3 of Islands in Danger.
 
We had time for a quick visit to the zoo today, so thought we’d go and have a look at some of the changes mentioned in these threads. For the first time I can remember I felt very unhappy as we went round the zoo– in fact, at times, I felt angry rather than simply unhappy. It may be just me, but I’m beginning to feel that I cannot understand at all what’s happening there. Firstly, why are both the rows of reptile houses off show in the Tropical House? As has already been said, there is now a permanent-looking wooden barrier in front of the former row of windows, and all that seems to be happening is that the path area is being replaced with deep plant beds. It’s not so much the irritation of not being able to see the reptiles any more, as the plethora of signs trying to imply that they’re apologetic about it, and that it is in someway for the visitors’ benefit that gets me. Why, oh why, can’t they replace these with an explanation of what’s going on, and why? How can they put up signs saying that they hope we’ll ‘understand’ what’ they’re doing, when they don’t bother to explain? They must be aware that many people have been visiting the zoo for decades, and are intelligent beings who care very much about it.
I felt the same about the area near Islands in Danger that used to be the round aviaries, the former children’s zoo (where are the porcupines?), and the old otter enclosure. All they seem to be doing is destroying parts of the zoo and replacing them with muddy, half planted beds and grassy areas – and all with NO explanations at all. The zoo’s slogan used to be ‘Always Building’ – now it should maybe be changed to ‘Always Demolishing’ or ‘Always Spoiling the Visitors’ View’.
Maybe there’s a good reason for these changes, and obviously the animal’s welfare is paramount. However, the zoo is an expensive day out for non-members, and I can’t see that these muddy patches and sudden closures of favourite areas are going to help attract visitors. I would think that even non-regular visitors might be happier about changes if good reasons were given, or details of what is planned in these areas for the future were given.

(The final straw, though in many ways less significant, was the tacky paper plates and cups in the Ark Restaurant – even soup now comes in a flimsy paper cup. How this endless use of new items is better for the environment than washing ordinary crockery and cutlery in a modern energy and water efficient dishwater I can’t imagine. It also gives the place a down-at-heel, tawdry feeling, in my opinion. Unfortunately this is not reflected in the high prices – something that is mentioned on countless on-line reviews of the zoo, but which is seemingly ignored by the zoo staff.)

There is a section on their website were you can post what you think of the zoo and inmprovements that could be made. You could ask them to explain what is going on.
 
The only addition to Islands in Danger that I can think of is an enclosure for the Boelen's Pythons.
 
The only addition to Islands in Danger that I can think of is an enclosure for the Boelen's Pythons.
There was plans for enclosures for the Anoa and Babirusa and some new Aviarys,suspect some Aviarys will be built plus some exhibits for some small mammal species not currently in the zoo.
 
There was plans for enclosures for the Anoa and Babirusa and some new Aviarys,suspect some Aviarys will be built plus some exhibits for some small mammal species not currently in the zoo.

They have just built a new Babirusa exhibit. Do they now only have one Anoa and if so are they planning on bringing another in to breed?
 
They have just built a new Babirusa exhibit. Do they now only have one Anoa and if so are they planning on bringing another in to breed?
If you read my post you will notice I said that there WAS plans for a Anoa and Babirusa enclosures,I believe that neither of these species will move from their current enclosures for the time been,as for bringing in another Anoa the answer is yes when they find one that is suitable.
 
We visited the zoo on Christmas Eve - it was pretty quiet. As it wwas so cold, we spent most of our time going from house to house.

In the Tropical House we noticed that a structure like a very large glass tank has been built on one of the areas in front of the former snake vivaria. We asked a memeber of staff what was going in it, and he replied that he didn't know as he was a gardener not a keeper.

(Oakfield House coffee shop was closed, and we refuse to eat/drink off the cheap paper plates/cups in the Ark, so we went home for lunch, meaning that our visit was shorter than usual so we didn't pick up much else.)
 
We visited the zoo on Christmas Eve - it was pretty quiet. As it wwas so cold, we spent most of our time going from house to house.

In the Tropical House we noticed that a structure like a very large glass tank has been built on one of the areas in front of the former snake vivaria. We asked a memeber of staff what was going in it, and he replied that he didn't know as he was a gardener not a keeper.

(Oakfield House coffee shop was closed, and we refuse to eat/drink off the cheap paper plates/cups in the Ark, so we went home for lunch, meaning that our visit was shorter than usual so we didn't pick up much else.)
Actually there are 2 glass enclosures that are going to be used to house some of the Reptiles that have been taken off-show as to what species are going in I don`t know,I can tell you it will not be the Green Mambas are the Snouted Cobras as both these species have left the zoo.
 
We agree with all that is being said on this thread re demolishing, putting species off display without any notice, and the introduction of mass amounts of paper plates etc - plus the cups have got smaller over the year, how is producing so much waste environmentally friendly?

We have always found staff and keepers (if any around) not able to answer queries and the lack of information is frustrating when you consider you become a member because you care and are interested in the progress of the animals there. I've emailed in the past and never had replies or received one once saying it's not their policy to answer individual queries. Even the website doesn't seem to be updated frequently or cover all issues. We went to the November Members Day and it was just an ordinary day, nothing happening or keepers to the ready at all. The Zoo seems to be getting a commercial and tacky feel and perhaps they should listen to feedback as they will be losing custom. We have not renewed our membership at Chester this year - we've transferred to Colchester Zoo as we find the overall atmosphere and level of staff/keeper help far better, the website is updated frequently, emails are Additionally, it's cheaper so more value for money!! Even through the Winter, most of the talks and feeds still continue.

Just a final trivial gripe, we got the Chester Zoo Advent Calendar - a lot of species on it aren't even at Chester and not one orangutan on it!!!! COnsidering Realm of the Red Ape is a main attraction why was this???

Perhaps management has changed and the issues we are noticing are a result of this?
 
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