Crotalus with Bufonids

Ivo Katrafilov

Ivo Katrafilov

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We've all seen zoo enclosures with "classical" combination of Incilius alvarius with multiple species of Crotalus or even Heloderma.

But has anyone seen or tried Rhinella marina with some neotropic Crotalus spp.?
 
You might have seen "classical" combinations with Colorado river toads and rattlesnakes; I can't remember one. I've kept said toads with two Heloderma species at WdG, which worked quite well, although I did get the impression that some Heloderma specimens can be kinda annoying for the toads.
I also keep both a massive cane toad and neotropical rattlesnakes at WdG, but given the voracious appetite of said toad, I wouldn't dare to mix both.
 
What is WdG?

What does the toad's appetite have to do with roommates? The only consideration is whether the combined reptiles haven't frogivore habits.
 
Ivo Katrafilov said:
What is WdG?

What does the toad's appetite have to do with roommates? The only consideration is whether the combined reptiles haven't frogivore habits.
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Welt der Gifte in Salzburg is a zoo and museum which @Batto owns

There's a risk of the opposite happening, that is, the toad trying to feed on the snake, I'm not sure the toad will succeed but it would certainly lead to a scuffle that will end badly for at least one of the species.
 
Mossman Joe said:
Welt der Gifte in Salzburg is a zoo and museum which @Batto owns

There's a risk of the opposite happening, that is, the toad trying to feed on the snake, I'm not sure the toad will succeed but it would certainly lead to a scuffle that will end badly for at least one of the species.
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Thanks.

We talked about 10-15cm(body) toads and rattlers at least meter, not babies or juveniles.
At the moment I have two marinus in Bassiliscus plumifrones vivarium, but there will be a big and deep aquarium and I prefer not to risk drawn. So I've started to think some combination with my Crotalus culminatus.
For a year the toads doesn't interact with Basiliscs even when is feeding time.
 
Ivo Katrafilov said:
Thanks.

We talked about 10-15cm(body) toads and rattlers at least meter, not babies or juveniles.
At the moment I have two marinus in Bassiliscus plumifrones vivarium, but there will be a big and deep aquarium and I prefer not to risk drawn. So I've started to think some combination with my Crotalus culminatus.
For a year the toads doesn't interact with Basiliscs even when is feeding time.
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As @Mossman Joe correctly put it, the risk of an interspecific "scuttle" in this scenario would be too high for me to try that mix.
 
Ivo Katrafilov said:
Interesting. Do you have some pictures here?
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I don't personally have any photos, myself. I have seen some on this site's galleries though. Two example that immediately come to mind would be Bronx Zoo who has Rhaebo in with their Green Anaconda and Baltimore Aquarium who keeps them free range in their upland tropical forest exhibit among many birds, mammals, turtles, and fishes.
 
CMTM said:
I don't personally have any photos, myself. I have seen some on this site's galleries though. Two example that immediately come to mind would be Bronx Zoo who has Rhaebo in with their Green Anaconda and Baltimore Aquarium who keeps them free range in their upland tropical forest exhibit among many birds, mammals, turtles, and fishes.
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I can't find here much about this. Maybe they are labeled with old genus or worst... with common names.
 
Batto said:
Oh my, how reprobate! The mere thought of such dilettantism sullies my essence *pompously readjusts monocle*
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Why? You like dozens of nonsense gibberish words meaning almost nothing, or one meaningful name which is straight to the point? When I enter ZTL and see all this nonsense I wonder for who they made it for. For zoo staff and owners, or just for regular visitors wanting to see where they can find their favorite animal from Discovery. I use common names only on my labels for the visitors, but on every label I have and translation of the scientific name, what they mean and why they are more meaningful and important than smooth sided, Amazon toad for example.
 
Ivo Katrafilov said:
Why? You like dozens of nonsense gibberish words meaning almost nothing, or one meaningful name which is straight to the point? When I enter ZTL and see all this nonsense I wonder for who they made it for. For zoo staff and owners, or just for regular visitors wanting to see where they can find their favorite animal from Discovery. I use common names only on my labels for the visitors, but on every label I have and translation of the scientific name, what they mean and why they are more meaningful and important than smooth sided, Amazon toad for example.
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One can do both. And that without losing your face or coming across as a pompados (Bucco laborarius)...
 
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