European (Tea)Cup - HEAD-TO-HEAD: Chester vs Prague (Latin America and the Caribbean)

Chester vs Prague - LATIN AMERICA AND THE CARIBBEAN

  • Chester 5/0 Prague

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  • Chester 4/1 Prague

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  • Prague 4/1 Chester

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  • Prague 5/0 Chester

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  • Total voters
    21
  • Poll closed .

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As the title suggests, this one will focus on the LATIN AMERICA AND THE CARIBBEAN category - as previously, the match will last for three days and although discussion of your reasoning and provision of supplementary evidence is not mandatory (except in cases of a 5:0 vote) it *is* very much encouraged.

Moreover, even if one does not feel comfortable voting, please do ask questions, post comments relating to your opinions on the evidence presented, and generally-speaking get involved in the wider discussion!
 
Leaning heavily towards Chester here. Some of the best enclosures in the world for Jaguars, Bush Dogs, Two-toed Sloths, Giant Otters and Spectacled Bears, plus some lovely primate enclosures (callitrichids often displayed excellently) throughout and solid enclosures for tapir, anteaters etc. Prague has some lovely species here (Tayra, Cuban Hutia) but overall on S.A. mammals this isn’t even a contest.

I think things get a little closer once we consider other classes. Of course Chester has the Amazon Aquarium in Spirit, the excellent work with goodeids and the Latin American Wetlands Aviary, but the sheer quantity of impressive and rarity-packed vivariums and aviaries throughout Prague’s grounds is definitely hard to beat. Particular highlights for me were the pair of South American aviaries in ‘Bird Wetlands’ and the iguana / free-flying bird room in the Feline and Reptile Pavilion. The giant tortoises (both species, and some of the Galapagos subspecies-pure) are another big advantage.

I’ll look a little further into what Prague has for birds and reptiles tomorrow if I get the time, but for now I’d say while it is definitely enough to earn two consolatory points, it isn’t enough to overturn Chester’s advantage from the exceptional mammal displays, especially when they have a fair few choice offerings of their own for those classes.

I think 3-2 Chester is a perfect vote for now.
 
The giant tortoises (both species, and some of the Galapagos subspecies-pure) are another big advantage.

I think you are somewhat confused about the location of the Aldabra islands :p
 
Particular highlights for me were the pair of South American aviaries in ‘Bird Wetlands’

Think it’s worth mentioning the Brazilian mergansers here - and the fact that they’ve already managed to breed them. In general agreed that large mammal-wise it’s no contest, but Prague does easily enough on the smaller scale to make this at the very least respectable. I’d have to have another look at what each have but 3-2 Chester for me right now.
 
With South America, there are some really nice things and some mediocre or straight up bad things in Prague.
As usual, Prague keeps some really cool and interesting species, but often in not so great exhibits. I'm speaking of tayras for example. Those mustelids are always fun to watch, but their exhibit is quite outdated in my eyes. Everytime I watch them I can see they would aprecciate a bigger space. Especially the male, which is VERY active.
Same goes for jaguarundis. Their exhibit is small, ugly, outdated. Basically a set of not very aesthetically pleasing and not too big cages.
In my opinion, this part of the zoo is one of the worst ones in Prague, together with the polar bear enclosure of course. That's why I believe it would be better to just remove it and build there something new instead.
The maned wolf enclosure is quite mediocre, there's nothing interesting about it. Same with bush dogs, where I would love to see even just a small water pool. Geez.
And again, I want to complain about how tapirs are being kept. Although they have a lot of space to roam, the enclosure isn't particularly appealing. Which I would not mind as much as the fact the pool with water is quite small, especially considering it's never entirely filled.
On the other hand, I like the monkey islands! They look really nice, especially in summer and it's a pleasant to watch the monkeys jump high in the trees. But! The indoors are REALLY small, ugly and plain and it's a shame considering how much time the monkeys spend there.
The best of the indoor enclosures is the newest one for capuchins. But it's still really ugly. Why are there caged plants in the back? And since they are already there, why don't they cover the whole wall? I'd love to know who designed this...
The exhibit for coatis is spacious and just nice in general. It can be hard to spot the animals sometimes, but that just makes it more fun.
There's also an exhibit for capybaras and giant anteaters. Those two species are kept separately. There were actually no capybaras just until few years ago when they became a trend and that was when the director decided it was a good idea to get them. Eugh!
And although I've said the jaguarundis don't have a nice space, there is other feline species that does. I'm talking about the Geoffroy's cat. Their enclosure is really nice, together with the others meant for small felines in the carnivore house. But those others are not South American, so it doesn't matter.
I also like to call the Chacoan maras "Prague's hidden gem". Sarcastically. I like the species, their exhibit really is kind of hidden... but when you approach it, you may feel disappointed. I don't know. I find that place really funny.
From my point of view, Prague's biggest strength is birds. If we forget about the Pheasantry, they are usually displayed very nicely.
I like the exhibits dedicated to South America in the Rakos pavilion, although I believe there's still space for an improvement. But they've got some cool species - Tataupa tinamou and wattled jacana being my personal favorites. Though, I should not forget the Lear's macaw.
The Bird Wetlands are, of course, home to more amazing birds. Everyone knows about the Brazilian mergansers. I find their exhibit to be the best looking one. I aprecciate that there's one more awesome species with them, besides the ibises, and that's the crested oropendola.
I should not forget the Humboldt penguins. Not a huge fan of their exhibit, but it's fine, although the indoor enclosure is kind of weird. I aprecciate they share space with steamer ducks, but I haven't seen them during my last two visits.
I won't comment on amphibians and reptiles. When it comes to amphibians, there just aren't many. With reptiles... Well, I just don't think I can really comment on them since they are not my target group and I don't know much about them.
 
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I'm very much leaning towards Chester here, a zoo with many species spread across Tropical Realm, SOTJ and other enclosures around the blue and green zones. With SOTJ being one of the best enclosures in the world for Jaguars, whilst also being home to an array of terrariums and aquariums including a stunning one that is also being inhabited by sloths. And of course the huge number of reptiles and birds in Tropical Realm, the American Wetlands Aviary, the miniature monkeys and of course the capybara, tapir, anteater and spectacled bear enclosures. Although admittedly I don't know enough about Prague's case (something I would be more than welcome to :D) I'm leaning heavily towards Chester.
 
@AmazonianHippo You just reminded me of the fact there are no monkeys from the Callitrichidae family in Prague. Not like I would mind, I'm not a huge fan of them, but I think it is worth mentioning.
 
I can’t vote due to not being familiar with Chester, but I do quite enjoy the Cuban iguana enclosure.

Also do the cuban crocodiles that are only shown in back stage tours not count, even as a conservation project?
 
I think you are somewhat confused about the location of the Aldabra islands :p
Whoops...
With South America, there are some really nice things and some mediocre or straight up bad things in Prague.
As usual, Prague keeps some really cool and interesting species, but often in not so great exhibits. I'm speaking of tayras for example. Those mustelids are always fun to watch, but their exhibit is quite outdated in my eyes. Everytime I watch them I can see they would aprecciate a bigger space. Especially the male, which is VERY active.
Same goes for jaguarundis. Their exhibit is small, ugly, outdated. Basically a set of not very aesthetically pleasing and not too big cages.
In my opinion, this part of the zoo is one of the worst ones in Prague, together with the polar bear enclosure of course. That's why I believe it would be better to just remove it and build there something new instead.
The maned wolf enclosure is quite mediocre, there's nothing interesting about it. Same with bush dogs, where I would love to see even just a small water pool. Geez.
I'd agree with regards to the Tayra. I don't know what the standard for this species is in Europe as I've only ever seen them at one other collection (Exmoor, where the enclosure doesn't strike me as great either), but I feel as though its far too sparse. Jaguarundi enclosure is better - as you say, less hyperactive species helps - but not great.

I think your being very harsh on the Maned Wolf enclosure though. It's very large, has long grass throughout and several rather large trees for shade and privacy, as well as an offshow yard at the back. Definitely one of the best enclosures I know of for the species. You say there's 'nothing interesting about it,' but what do you suggest they add? This species wouldn't benefit from climbing apparatus or a pool. The Bush Dog enclosure is also really nicely-planted and very large, and I especially thought the big hollow log and the well-designed public indoor area were nice touches. You say you'd like 'even just a small water pool,' but there is a small water pool. Granted, it is 'small,' but it's more effort than any other zoo I've been to with the species has gone to; Chester, with their enormous enclosure in the Jaguar House (the only one I'd rate higher than Prague's) included!

And again, I want to complain about how tapirs are being kept. Although they have a lot of space to roam, the enclosure isn't particularly appealing. Which I would not mind as much as the fact the pool with water is quite small, especially considering it's never entirely filled.
On the other hand, I like the monkey islands! They look really nice, especially in summer and it's a pleasant to watch the monkeys jump high in the trees. But! The indoors are REALLY small, ugly and plain and it's a shame considering how much time the monkeys spend there.
The best of the indoor enclosures is the newest one for capuchins. But it's still really ugly. Why are there caged plants in the back? And since they are already there, why don't they cover the whole wall? I'd love to know who designed this...
The exhibit for coatis is spacious and just nice in general. It can be hard to spot the animals sometimes, but that just makes it more fun.
I really liked the Brazilian Tapir enclosure and I'd be interested to say what isn't 'appealing' about it. The pool wasn't particularly small, though if it isn't usually filled to the top then that is indeed unfortunate (and very strange).

I also love the monkey islands, though I share your criticism about the indoor areas. I'm only judging the capuchin enclosure on the photos that you recently uploaded as it opened since my visit, but they don't seem very ugly to me. I love the skylights and the airy feel they create, and caged plants are commonly used in zoos these days to make indoor areas look prettier for animals, such as primates, that would rip the leaves off the plants if they were in the enclosure. It is weird they don't cover the whole wall but maybe this will improve with time; it's a new exhibit, they might need to grow.

I forgot about the brilliant White-nosed Coati enclosure. One of my favourite mammal exhibit at Prague and realistically the only mammal exhibit (in this category) that can stand up to the best of Chester...
 
I'd agree with regards to the Tayra. I don't know what the standard for this species is in Europe as I've only ever seen them at one other collection (Exmoor, where the enclosure doesn't strike me as great either), but I feel as though its far too sparse. Jaguarundi enclosure is better - as you say, less hyperactive species helps - but not great.
I don't know the standards either, but I can certainly recognize if an exhibit is bad. There are two facilities that keep tayras in Czechia, the second one being Ostrava. And although the Ostrava exhibit isn't perfect either, it still offers more opportunities to run around and climb. What's more, the tayras in Ostrava also get extra enrichment. Those in Prague don't. There are apparently no photos of either of those enclosures, so I will just post some screenshots from mapy.cz and a video Ostrava zoo posted on FaceBook. That weird shelter is no longer there.
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The Bush Dog enclosure is also really nicely-planted and very large, and I especially thought the big hollow log and the well-designed public indoor area were nice touches. You say you'd like 'even just a small water pool,' but there is a small water pool. Granted, it is 'small,' but it's more effort than any other zoo I've been to with the species has gone to; Chester, with their enormous enclosure in the Jaguar House (the only one I'd rate higher than Prague's) included!
As for the bush dogs - sorry, I forgot there's a pool, my bad. I actually remember it, but it's been a long time since I've last seen it filled. Also, I don't really know what you're talking about...? I mean, there's a pool in Chester too.
I think your being very harsh on the Maned Wolf enclosure though. It's very large, has long grass throughout and several rather large trees for shade and privacy, as well as an offshow yard at the back. Definitely one of the best enclosures I know of for the species. You say there's 'nothing interesting about it,' but what do you suggest they add? This species wouldn't benefit from climbing apparatus or a pool.
Maned wolves - the issue is I've seen the Plzeň exhibit which is much nicer. There's not only tall grass, but also bushes. And I don't enjoy looking at animals from above - but that's just a me thing. I actually don't know if you saw them in their current enclosure, since they switched places with common wallaroos. Though, those two exhibits are basically the same, just the one currently inhabited by maned wolves is smaller.
 

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As for the bush dogs - sorry, I forgot there's a pool, my bad. I actually remember it, but it's been a long time since I've last seen it filled. Also, I don't really know what you're talking about...? I mean, there's a pool in Chester too.
The Chester enclosure from the photo you provide now holds cheetahs. Bush Dogs are kept in a different enclosure in the Jaguar House that is far larger (with surely the biggest indoor area for the species in the world).

However, you're right, it also has a pool outdoors. :p

 
The Chester enclosure from the photo you provide now holds cheetahs. Bush Dogs are kept in a different enclosure in the Jaguar House that is far larger (with surely the biggest indoor area for the species in the world).

However, you're right, it also has a pool outdoors. :p

Not any more - the last cheetah has died and the Bush Dogs are now back in the enclosure posted by @merlin .
 
The discussion has been fairly one-sided thus far, but the votes suggest that @Paul.Haerle might have some interesting counterpoints which may convince others to switch to Prague - or indeed encourage lurkers to cast their own votes!
 
I wouldn't say I have interesting counterpoints, but Prague has the better Latin American and Carribean bird collection with includes among others Brazilian Merganser, White-faced Ibis, Horned Screamer, Crested Oropendola, White-throated Piping Guan, Watteled Jacana, Lear's Macaw, Tataupa Tinamou, Scarlet-headed Blackbird and Red-billed Currasow what's for me personally more important.
Chester's bird Latin American and Carribean collection has only one rare bird known to me: the Scarlet-rumped Tanager.
 
Chester -- 61/105 points - 58.095%
Prague - 44/105 points - 41.905%
 
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