European (Tea)Cup - League B - Prague vs Copenhagen

Prague vs Copenhagen - SOUTH AMERICA AND THE CARIBBEAN

  • Copenhagen 3/2 Prague

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  • Copenhagen 4/1 Prague

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  • Copenhagen 5/0 Prague

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  • Total voters
    28
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Another pair of zoological collections facing off against each other, and once again the category which we are looking at is SOUTH AMERICA AND THE CARIBBEAN - we've had two previous matches within this particular category, so the geographic scope and the range of possible ways to judge success (or indeed failure) is very familiar to us.

Both collections have had success within the Cup so far - but which will come out the victor this time?
 
This one *feels* like a fairly-obvious win for Prague, but I am open to being persuaded otherwise.
 
One woud guess that this is not the strongest category for Prague, but does Prague really has any weaknesses? We will see in the next matches. Meanwhile they have lovely Spider Monkey islands, Lowland Tapir and Giant Anteater/Capibara in the lower part of the zoo and Maned Wolf, Bush Dog and Guanaco at the upper part. Those are probably the "standard" South Americans. But than are coming Chaco Mara, Chaco Pecaries, Cuban Hutia, Jaguarundi, Geoffroy’s Cat and Tayra! And haven't even entered the Rakos Parrot Pavilion, yet ...

Copenhagen can try to deffend themselves with Vicuna mixed exhibit, few Callitrichids and Sloth in the Tropical house, but I wouldn't give them more than a point. 4-1 for Prague.
 
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Unlike with most other geographical categories, Prague doesn't have any devoted Latin American zones, but there are so many, very well-done smaller displays throughout the zoo that do fit this category. Don't know much about Copenhagen but feel confident in at least a 4-1 win for the Czech zoo. Will have to wait to hear or research a little more with regards to what the Danish capital has to offer here before I consider whether a 5-0 could even be an appropriate scoreline!

A few photos and brief descriptions of Prague so that those who have not visited can make a more informed judgement, although the verdict seems fairly clear-cut regardless.

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@Robaque - a standard-sized but attractively planted Maned Wolf enclosure.

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@lintworm - a spacious and shaded Bush Dog enclosure, with a decent indoor area onshow.

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@vogelcommando - relatively standard enclosure for a really nice rarity, the Cuban Hutia.

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@Robaque - part of the outstanding White-nosed Coati enclosure, which is huge with a network of mature trees, and probably one of the best coati enclosures I have ever seen.

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@vogelcommando - nondescriept, but certainly adequate Guanaco enclosure.

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@Kalaw - decently-sized and well-landscaped enclosure for another rarity, the Chacoan Peccary

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@LaughingDove - a walkthrough for Pantanal waterfowl. Held 15 species on my august visit, with rarities including White-faced Ibis, White-throated Piping-guan, Guira Cuckoo and several more; a really impressive species list, in my opinion.

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@Kalaw - adjacent to the previous aviary, although this time a little smaller, more dense, and not a walkthrough. It has three major rarities with Horned Screamer, Crested Oropendola, and best of all, what I believe are the only Brazilian Mergansers (the world's most endangered duck) outside of their native range.

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@JigerofLemuria - a very interesting hall within the Feline and Reptile Pavilion, which houses breeding groups of Cuban Ground Iguanas and Green Iguanas in different subsections, one of which mixed with North Antillean Sliders, whilst House Finches, Ruddy Doves and Cuban Grassquits free-fly between the lot of them.

There are several really other nice terrariums within the Feline and Reptile Pavilion which count for this category, but sadly there aren't really any photos of them in the gallery. In particular, a display for Mexican desert lizards is really well-constructed, and it is lovely to see Green Anacondas share a pool with Silver Arowana! There is also a Geoffroy's Cat enclosure that I thought was very spacious and attractively landscaped outdoors (although indoors it wasn't poor for the animals but a slight eyesore, it must be said), but again no photos sadly.

Four of the aviaries in the amazing Rakos' Pavilion should count for this category, too. Each one houses at least parrot species (around whom the house revolves), but also several other smaller birds living with them. The geographical accuracy of the house is very commendable, with all species naturally living together barring some one exceptions, the jacanas in the Jamaican and Pantanal aviaries. There are no photos that really show the Jamaican aviary, but the other three are pictured below.

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@lintworm - Pantanal aviary, with Tatuapa Tinamou and Scarlet-headed Blackbird being noteworthy.

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@lintworm - Caatinga aviary housing just two species (Lear's Macaw and Red-cowled Cardinal) of which both are major rarities. I believe at least some of the desert foliage, such as cacti, are real plants, and the whole theme of the aviary struck me as being quite pleasantly unique.

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@Manumea - the outdoor Peruvian walkthrough, which is the best of the lot in my opinion. Monk Parakeets, the only parakeet to build nests rather than repurposing existing tree cavaties, are the stars. Kept in large numbers, it is remarkable to be surrounded by them as the fly back and forth to attend to their impressive nests.

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@Chapman'szebra - showing part of the very attractive South American Squirrel Monkey island.

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@Kalaw - an even larger island for Mexican Spider Monkeys with many mature trees.

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@Kalaw - the largest Titicaca Water Frog tank I have ever seen, in which I counted 80 individuals!

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@vogelcommando - a pleasant Brazilian Tapir enclosure.

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@Chapman'szebra - a standard-sized but beautifully designed Giant Anteater and Capybara enclosure.

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@Chapman'szebra - rather average Spectacled Owl aviary.

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@Kalaw - a standard Humboldt Penguin enclosure with one notable addition; a mix with the naturally flightless, and therefore not pinioned, Fuegian Steamer Duck, a rarity in zoo.

That should be a fairly decent overview of all Prague's offerings in this category. Definitely a strength. Happy with 4-1 for now, but I don't think 5-0 should be out of the question unless I am missing something at Copenhagen. Other than the Chilean and Caribbean Flamingos which are sadly pinioned, I don't think Prague has a single substandard exhibit in this category. There are some really nice ones, too, such as the coatis and the spider monkeys, with countless rarities, too, several of which (such as the Cuban Ground Iguana) Prague has a long-standing tradition of breeding success with. I also love how several of the mixed-species exhibits in this category for birds and lizards are very geographically accurate, sticking to particular ecosystems with few waverings, and how unique and memorable some of the displays are (Titicaca frogs and Monk Parakeets for example).
 
I believe that Copenhagen, even weak deserves the point:

They have nicely done South American free-flying aviary with Carebeen flamingo and 5 more SA species
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Four spieces of Poison Dart Frogs + more Amphibians


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Free flying SA species , Sloth, Armadilo and reptiles at the Tropical House
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Pampas exhibit - Mara/Capybara/ Giant Anteater/ Rea/ Vicuna
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Having only visited copenhagen out of these two, thanks to the rundown of Prague by @Kalaw, I think I will vote 4-1 to the latter. Also small correction @twilighter, the island is (unfortunately, one could argue) not for tamarins but for squirrel monkeys. Thanks for the pics to both of you:)
 
Having only visited copenhagen out of these two, thanks to the rundown of Prague by @Kalaw, I think I will vote 4-1 to the latter. Also small correction @twilighter, the island is (unfortunately, one could argue) not for tamarins but for squirrel monkeys. Thanks for the pics to both of you:)

Thank you for the correction @Nikolaj TB :) I visited the zoo in 2016, 2018, 2022 and 2023. Is it possible that Lion Tamarins lived in this area during this period ?


Pretty much non-existent aquarium section?
Thank you @HOMIN96 Probably no one knows better Prague zoo than you are, but for the sake of ZooChat Cup, Fishes and other usual Aquarium species are under the Ectotherms umbrella. And Prague has what to offer in this category :) Are they any plans for future Aquarium ?
 
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Thank you @HOMIN96 Probably no one knows better Prague zoo than you are, but for the sake of ZooChat Cup, Fishes and other usual Aquarium species are under the Ectotherms umbrella. And Prague has what to offer in this category :) Are they any plans for future Aquarium ?

There *is* actually a Water category in the Cup too..... although time will tell which zoological collections end up competing against one another in that field ;)
 
There *is* actually a Water category in the Cup too..... although time will tell which zoological collections end up competing against one another in that field ;)
Would waterfowl count for that? If so then that is hardly a weakness for Prague either. I imagine there are very few, if any, zoos in this cup quite as well-rounded as Prague - most seem to have one or few categories where they could easily be exposed with an unlucky draw.
 
@owensluis - as you haven't posted in this thread thus far and as such have given no indication about the motivations for your vote, I have to ask you to provide a justification for your 5:0 vote per the Zoochat Cup rules :)
 
This is a clear 4/1 to Prague for me. The enclosures for SA waterfowl and the aviaries in the Rakos Pavilion swing it for me as does the gorgeous paddock for white-nosed coati. I agree with other posters above that Prague doesn't really have many weak points -
 
@owensluis - as you haven't posted in this thread thus far and as such have given no indication about the motivations for your vote, I have to ask you to provide a justification for your 5:0 vote per the Zoochat Cup rules :)

Yeah ofcourse!
I am voting for a 5:0 because in my opinion the South American options seen in Copenhagen Zoo are not really anything special or worth visiting. Prague has some nice species or really beautiful enclsosures for maybe less interesting species.
 
A fairly obvious result from early on....

Prague - 111/140 points - 79.286%
Copenhagen - 29/140 points - 20.714%
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