I can't find the answer

Javan Rhino

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I wondered what the Matamata turtle (Chelus fimbriatus) is listed as (Least Concern/Vulnerable etc). I have looked on Wikipedia as a starting point, and with nothing there I turned my attention towards the IUCN website, but when I entered the scientific name into the search no entries were found. I tried the common name (both as one word and as 'mata mata') and still no entries. Any ideas?

(P.S. wikipedia doesn't state any listing for quite a few reptile species. If anybody has any more, maybe this could be a topic for asking about certain species).
 
Not listed by IUCN.

Ahh, I always thought that the IUCN listed all recorded species since I've never seen anything different.

So, are they common or endangered? In other words, what would their listing most likely be if they had one and what can I list it as in any files I write about it? (Are there other groups beside the IUCN that may have listed it, for example?)
 
Mata matas have a huge distribution and are locally not rare. It would not come anywhere near an endangered or vulnerable status after version 3.1 IUCN guidelines:
IUCN Red List - Categories and Criteria (version 3.1)

Except recent splits and newly described species IUCN cover all birds, mammals and amphibians but are missing many reptiles and most fish, invertebrates and plants. I have heard that in the next years the big focus will be on getting less mammals that are data deficient and getting rating to more reptiles. Fish, invertebrates and plants are huge groups with lots of taxonomy confusion (much more than in birds, mammals, amphibians and reptiles) and it is unrealistic to think they will be covered any time soon. Especially invertebrates and plants.
 
Mata matas have a huge distribution and are locally not rare. It would not come anywhere near an endangered or vulnerable status after version 3.1 IUCN guidelines:
IUCN Red List - Categories and Criteria (version 3.1)

Except recent splits and newly described species IUCN cover all birds, mammals and amphibians but are missing many reptiles and most fish, invertebrates and plants. I have heard that in the next years the big focus will be on getting less mammals that are data deficient and getting rating to more reptiles. Fish, invertebrates and plants are huge groups with lots of taxonomy confusion (much more than in birds, mammals, amphibians and reptiles) and it is unrealistic to think they will be covered any time soon. Especially invertebrates and plants.

Thanks :). Although it sounds selfish, I am not as interested in the fish or inverts, and certainly not the plants. Mammals, birds and herps are my favourite areas. I've heard that matamatas are in the pet trade, and if they are locally common I'm inclined to believe they would most likely be LC, NT possibly but maybe less likely.
 
Thanks :). Although it sounds selfish, I am not as interested in the fish or inverts, and certainly not the plants.

I understand that this is slighty off topic, but how can plants not be of interest to you! Plants are amazing organisms! :cool: Have you ever visited the Eden Project?
 
I understand that this is slighty off topic, but how can plants not be of interest to you! Plants are amazing organisms! :cool: Have you ever visited the Eden Project?

No. It's not that they aren't interest, they just don't catch my interest AS much as the animalia kingdom. Don't get me wrong though, I do enjoy looking around garden centres and planning out my future garden :D
 
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