mutations in avairy birds.

It's just personal opinion. Like i said in the first post. The natural form of Princess parrots are prettier than any mutation, in my opinion.
P.S Danale what are you keeping at the moment?
 
My Collection

the only mutations i have are a few whiteface and pastelface cockatiels, however i just got rid of most of them, and cinnamon scaley brested lorikeets, and an olive rainbow... and i have two hybred cockatoos... all the rest of my collection are natural colored... what have you got boof???
 
Saw an advert. in an Aussie avicultural magazine for a Blue and Gold Macaw without any blue! Just gold all over!
Normal Blue and Golds in Australia sell for thousands of dollars each, but to buy that mutation you would have to sell your home.
 
In the same magazine I saw a picture of a lutine macaw, not sure if it was the same as what ARA saw. It was a case of a mutation that definately wasn'y as attractive as the original wild colour.
 
[ of a mutation that definately wasn'y as attractive as the original wild colour.[/QUOTE]


Only a personal opinion, but I have NEVER seen a mutation in any animal that is as attractive as the original wild colour. And, yes, I can appreciate the detailed knowledge of genetics and the incredible patience that must have gone into breeding birds like the Violet Indian Ringneck BUT the inbreeding that is necessary to perpetuate some of these mutations leaves me cold.

Before anyone kicks me where it hurts I'll readily admit that I am out of step with a significant percentage of the population on this. Just my personal opinion.
 
Danale, I heard that someone had bred a galackatiel. A cross between a galah and a cockatiel.
 
Steve Robinson said:
Only a personal opinion, but I have NEVER seen a mutation in any animal that is as attractive as the original wild colour. And, yes, I can appreciate the detailed knowledge of genetics and the incredible patience that must have gone into breeding birds like the Violet Indian Ringneck BUT the inbreeding that is necessary to perpetuate some of these mutations leaves me cold.
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I think there is a role for the mutations in a zoo, but to my experience no zoo makes full advantage of it. Mutations and hybridisation are naturally occuring phenomena. A display featuring (in layman's terms) the wonders of genetics and taxonomy could show the 'freak' colouration or features from an educational angle, while also covering the zoo's visitor attraction side. Unfortunately of those zoos wanting or willing to display species with mutated colouration or hybrids, then they are usually of the latter view.

Interestingly I worked in a zoo once (I will not embarrass it's reputation by saying which one) which housed temporarily a white tiger (on loan). We already housed a pure subspecies, but the marketing department (with obviously the curator's approval) seized upon the opportunity that the public would flock in through the gates to see a white tiger, and at the same time could push the true 'conservation' values regarding the endangered status of all Panthera tigris. Of course if you market something correctly it can be a success, and to the zoo's collective management brain's trust it was. Never mind that the cat suffered from long-term health problems (which is then a financial burden), needed to be transported across the country twice, and as a white tiger was a victim of in-breeding and hybridisation. And nothing was mentioned as to why there are white tigers beyond the usual hype. The same zoo now probably enjoys as much success bringing in crowds every time they produce a litter of pure-bred endangered tigers.

My personal view is to either not have mutants/hybrids at all, or make a real point with them.
 
Bird Hybreds

Yes that is correct a galah x Cockatiel has been bred, this proved that cockatiels are indeed part of the cockatoo family.

other cockatoo hybrids heard of include:
Galah x Short bill corella ( seen in the wild also)
Galah x Long Billed Corella
Short Billed Corella x Long Billed Corella
Galah x Sulphur Crested Cockatoo
Major Mitchell Cockatoo x Galah
Major Mitchell Cockatoo x Short Billed Corella
Short Billed Corella x Sulphur Crested Cockatoo
Galah & Corella & MM Cockatoo sub species hybreds... also common

i have heard that there has been 3/4 Corella 1/4 Galah crosses bred and Black cockatoo - white cockatoo Hybreds... however until i see one with my own eyes i remain scepticle.

I believe that female hybredsare sterile, however males possibly not - then it would be possible to make 3/4 hybreds...

Other birds....

King parrots x Red wing parrots
Eastern Rosella x Red Rumped Parrot
Superb Parrot x Red wing Parrot
Eastern Rosella x Pale Headed rosella
Princess x Red Rumped

Lorrikeet Hybreds (Rainbow, red collar, scaley, musk) all freely interhybredise
Webers lorrikeet x Rainbow lorrikeets
Black Lori x Rainbow Lorikeets (pope's lori) ( can breed on)
Red Lori x Rainbow Lorikeets (Bishops lori) ( also in lutino mutation) (can breed on )

Mules ( canary x european goldfinch) belived to be sterile - however released in europe because female do not sing - reports of them breeding on may be possible

there would be more but my brains is fried....

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Hang on, you guys are going from mutations to hybrids, which are entirely different subjects!

(Oh well, if I can't beat you, I must join you.) :o

While I support mutations, I DON'T like hybrids - however, the most beautiful hybrid I ever saw in my life was a **** King parrot x Red-wing parrot.
 
While I support mutations, I DON'T like hybrids - however, the most beautiful hybrid I ever saw in my life was a **** King parrot x Red-wing parrot.[/QUOTE]


Ara, there is currently a King x Red-wing as a display bird in a Brisbane suburban pet shop and it is UGLY. Your bird must have incorporated the best of both species and this bird must have been standing behind the door when beauty was handed out!
 
Ha! Ha!
Yes, that's another problem with hybrids; they all seem different to each other.

The King x Red-wing hybrid I saw was a male at Featherdale some years ago. It was basically the dark green of a King parrot but with a red cap, a green face and red chest and belly from "chin" to vent. It had bright yellow wing coverts, a very striking looking bird.
 
There was a photo in a Sydney newspaper a few days ago of a wild Sulphur-crested cockatoo which was sulphur-yellow all over, not just its crest. It was in a flock, the others of which were normal coloured.
 
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