Possible new rules for uk Zoos, falconry centres and private collections

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Macaulay

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Iv been told by a friend that Apparently by 2027 it will be illegal to have any birds teathered And all falconry displays outside of a centre or zoo will no longer be allowed Experiences are ok.
There’s 3 defra vets who believe it’s cruel and unwanted (by activists). There’s also calls from within defra by 2030 a ban on all bird breeding unless it’s proved it’s for conservation only for both privat collections and zoos, Because it’s gotten to defra, then it’s highly likely. This is mainly come from Charlie heap. He’s a government advisor with parry Jones. This is why parry has closed her facility as she knows these rules coming possible early as 2023 recommendation then ban 2027. There are talks on that ongoing. According to Hawkboard who are trying to stop that from happening.

So either parry Jones is behind it Or as Charlie says he’s advising them but there doing the opposite.
 
Macaulay said:
Iv been told by a friend that Apparently by 2027 it will be illegal to have any birds teathered And all falconry displays outside of a centre or zoo will no longer be allowed Experiences are ok.
There’s 3 defra vets who believe it’s cruel and unwanted (by activists). There’s also calls from within defra by 2030 a ban on all bird breeding unless it’s proved it’s for conservation only for both privat collections and zoos, Because it’s gotten to defra, then it’s highly likely. This is mainly come from Charlie heap. He’s a government advisor with parry Jones. This is why parry has closed her facility as she knows these rules coming possible early as 2023 recommendation then ban 2027. There are talks on that ongoing. According to Hawkboard who are trying to stop that from happening.

So either parry Jones is behind it Or as Charlie says he’s advising them but there doing the opposite.
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Is this purely for birds of prey?
 
Macaulay said:
Iv been told by a friend that Apparently by 2027 it will be illegal to have any birds teathered And all falconry displays outside of a centre or zoo will no longer be allowed Experiences are ok.
There’s 3 defra vets who believe it’s cruel and unwanted (by activists). There’s also calls from within defra by 2030 a ban on all bird breeding unless it’s proved it’s for conservation only for both privat collections and zoos
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Do you have any source for this other than "I've been told by a friend"?
 
Macaulay said:
Iv been told by a friend that Apparently by 2027 it will be illegal to have any birds teathered And all falconry displays outside of a centre or zoo will no longer be allowed Experiences are ok.
There’s 3 defra vets who believe it’s cruel and unwanted (by activists). There’s also calls from within defra by 2030 a ban on all bird breeding unless it’s proved it’s for conservation only for both privat collections and zoos, Because it’s gotten to defra, then it’s highly likely. This is mainly come from Charlie heap. He’s a government advisor with parry Jones. This is why parry has closed her facility as she knows these rules coming possible early as 2023 recommendation then ban 2027. There are talks on that ongoing. According to Hawkboard who are trying to stop that from happening.

So either parry Jones is behind it Or as Charlie says he’s advising them but there doing the opposite.
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Please don’t talk utter nonsense. Almost all of this statement is untrue.

If you want to know what the new standards are currently set to be, then read them yourself rather than paraphrasing nonsense from a “friend”.
 
Proposals on the tethering of birds in zoos are part of a DEFRA consultancy document undergoing review at the moment,touchpools are also a proposed ban. Personally I hope it comes about..this method of display is as archaic as parrots chained to stands. As i understand it the prospective ban does not apply to private individuals.
 
Tim Brown said:
Proposals on the tethering of birds in zoos are part of a DEFRA consultancy document undergoing review at the moment,touchpools are also a proposed ban. Personally I hope it comes about..this method of display is as archaic as parrots chained to stands. As i understand it the prospective ban does not apply to private individuals.
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Tethering birds of prey is part of the training process if it is ban then all falconry centres will be forced to become private or close down all together and falconry will die as a sport that had been practice in Britain since the beaker period so really it should be heritage protected and my under standing is zoos are just the start they pland to ban all tethering by 2030
 
No mention of private banning in the document,then again it isnt appropriate to the document. I know little of falconry apart from the bird shows i see,and as a process im not very interested in it, if you are then i can understand your concern, but it wouldnt bother me if falconry died out to be honest. Lots of other types of bird seem to behave in bird shows without articles of restraint"needed" to train them. And ,as i said,the display of birds tied to bits of wood all day leaves me uncomfortable. Ive no doubt you feel entirely differently, but for me..its of no more "heritage" than cock-fighting .
 
Tim Brown said:
No mention of private banning in the document,then again it isnt appropriate to the document. I know little of falconry apart from the bird shows i see,and as a process im not very interested in it, if you are then i can understand your concern, but it wouldnt bother me if falconry died out to be honest. Lots of other types of bird seem to behave in bird shows without articles of restraint"needed" to train them. And ,as i said,the display of birds tied to bits of wood all day leaves me uncomfortable. Ive no doubt you feel entirely differently, but for me..its of no more "heritage" than cock-fighting .
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I agree. It was ‘traditional’ to bait bears, fight cocks and dogs but none of those things were preserved. Some people defend electric shock collars for dogs as ‘part of the training process’.

It’s really not part of any ‘sport’ to tie a bird to a stick all day and night as recent reports suggest is unfortunately more than common practice.

To be honest some of these things wouldn’t need regulating at all if people stopped being abusive in the first place.

I think it’s a shame to see birds of prey tethered to the ground for long periods when they could be free flying in aviaries - it’s a real area of opportunity for zoos and collections to give birds plenty of room and the ability to move around properly as I’m sure we’ve all seen comparatively small aviaries and cages which don’t seem ‘fair’.
 
Can I just stress that this is all still in the consultancy stage. The secretary of state zoo standards has been sent to all of us at our own collections and is being worked on with each collection. Some will be enforced whilst other areas will be worked on and met with compromise.
Until we get through the consultancy stage then nothing is finalised as of yet.
For those not at a zoo collection, the document is online and available to be read
 
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