ANyhuis
Well-Known Member
Oh, just a quickie. I don't have any real problem with elephant rides either, as long as the elephants involved are well treated.
Busch, when they built their parks, apparently took great care to clearly and decisively separate the 'zoo' portions of the park from those containing the rides and non-animal attractions. I have absolutely no problem with this sort of arrangement. Disney has clearly done the same thing, placing their zoo elements in a park entirely separate from the main theme park. Again, no issues with that specific element.
Now, jump back to Six Flags. They took a park that was never designed to accommodate a split arrangement of that sort, and just randomly plopped down rides anywhere they could. The results are blatantly obvious, both in aesthetics and noise level. To this day, I remain highly concerned about the effects of the coasters and carny attractions' non-stop audible barrage on what few animals SFDK has left, particularly the big cats (who have hearing that is, by nature, considerably more acute than any human). I also have to wonder what frequencies the coasters and other attractions might be producing that are inaudible to humans, but still within the range of, say, a tiger or cougar.
In summary: I have no problem if a park clearly separates its thrill-ride and zoological elements, both physically and in terms of department and budget.
What I have a huge problem with is combining the two elements right on top of each other, as Six Flags has so badly done. You're going to have to go a very long way to convince me that all the animals in such a situation suffer no long-term harm, including the elephants.
You say you saw nothing really wrong when you went to SFDK. The last time I was there (about two years ago), I clearly remember pacing behavior on the part of several big cats, and the size of the lion enclosure vs. how many animals were in it was shameful. "Cramped" would be putting it mildly. Don't even get me started on the lack of enrichment.
I suspect we're going to agree to disagree, but my feeling on the place is they should simply get rid of all animal elements, and revert to the pure theme park they seem to want to be.
Actually, I'm not so sure we have to "agree to disagree". You've given me a lot more that I can agree with -- and I really appreciate your explanation of the difference in Busch Gardens and DAK, and its cool to see someone else not bowing to the political correctness of criticizing elephant rides. As I said, I did a very quick tour of SFDK. I took a quick look at the animals and saw nothing "obvious" that would indicate poor care, though admittedly some of the big cats and the elephants were already in for the night. I saw no pacing. It was a warm day and so most of the animals were laying out, very inactive.
Let me address your charge that they: "just randomly plopped down rides anywhere they could" and "combining the two elements right on top of each other, as Six Flags has so badly done". When I was there, I definitely took a look at this. While I'd agree with you that they did not separate the animals from the rides as well as BG or DAK, I think your "right on top of each other" is a gross exaggeration. Take a look at the map of SFDK:
Park Map: Six Flags Discovery Kingdom
As I remembered, the map shows that the main big (loud) roller coasters are all up at the front of the park. None of the animal exhibits are directly below them, and few are even close. The far end of the elephants' complex in near one coaster, and on the other side, the Sea Lion stadium in near another coaster. Besides these 2 examples, almost all of the animals exhibits are spread around the outside of the park, while the rides are mostly on the interior. Could I hear the coasters from the animal exhibits? Yes, but I didn't think it was obnoxiously loud, and certainly not nearly as loud as if they were directly below the coasters.
Take a look at the map -- with an open mind. Maybe SFDK has cleaned up its act a bit since your last visit, 2 years ago. Perhaps they truly did have some "on top of each other" problems back then. I don't think they do now. I'll also tell you that I agree on one other point -- I too visited this park a decade ago, when they were Marine World, and I liked it better back then. So my conclusion: SFDK is indeed flawed, but now nearly as bad as you think they are.