South Lakes Wild Animal Park South Lakes to Close to the Public

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You seem to have lots of time to copy and paste anything you can get your hands on which then makes you sound like you know what you're talking about but don't take the time to get facts right.

Without wanting this to sound like a witch hunt, I'd agree with this statement (in fact he/she's been caught out with this before by Chli, amongst others). That's not to say he/she's not got some valid points to make, just that their desire to fuel the anti-Gill stances seems to result in a very scatter-shot approach.

 

[TeaLovingDave]

My understanding is that a councillor with a prejudicial interest should not remain in the room. I would assume (hope?) that the surname of the substitute member is merely coincidental. Cllr Heath would have a prejudicial interest in any zoo application which came before planning.

You seem to have lots of time to copy and paste anything you can get your hands on which then makes you sound like you know what you're talking about but don't take the time to get facts right.

Without wanting this to sound like a witch hunt, I'd agree with this statement (in fact he/she's been caught out with this before by Chli, amongst others). That's not to say he/she's not got some valid points to make, just that their desire to fuel the anti-Gill stances seems to result in a very scatter-shot approach.

This is a valid point. which myself and several other moderators have warned bigcat_speciali about many times in the past; however I don't agree that it also applies to ShavingtonZoo. I suspect that "Just Me" replied to the post written by the latter individual without noticing that it was not written by the former individual.

 

[Chlidonias]

the reply in question (#106, Just Me) was directed at the post before the quoted post (i.e. post #97 by bigcat speciali rather than #98 by SHAVINGTONZOO) - #98 contains the quote from post #97 but this does not show up in a second quote.

I think most people would have got that though.

 

[SHAVINGTONZOO]

the reply in question (#106, Just Me) was directed at the post before the quoted post (i.e. post #97 by bigcat speciali rather than #98 by SHAVINGTONZOO) - #98 contains the quote from post #97 but this does not show up in a second quote.

I think most people would have got that though.

I'm grateful for that clarification. It was unfortunate that the comment that "you seem to have lots of time to ... " appeared to be directed at me, rather than BCS.

 

[SHAVINGTONZOO]

Councillor Heath did not take part in the meeting hence her substitution and as a councillor or member of the public she was entitled to sit in the room. It's also my understanding that when the press, zoo staff and officers left the room Cllr Heath (as any councillor could) would have been entitled to stay in the room during the committees deliberations of the evidence they had just heard although not be able to speak. I understand that to avoid putting her colleagues in a difficult situation she chose to leave the room. From what I can see all predudicial interests were taken care of at that meeting. It also needs noting that she is not just a councillor she is the ward councillor for the zoo and therefore has a duty to both the zoo and Mr Gill. Stuck between a rock and a hard place springs to mind.

My understanding - and I have been both a Councillor (including sitting on a Licensing Committee) and Clerk to a Council - is that a councillor who declares a prejudicial interest should leave the room.

This may have changed recently.

However, the question of whether Cllr Heath has behaved correctly is a matter for Barrow Borough Council. If BCS has concerns he should raise them with the appropriate authority (as I suspect he may have done). If such misbehaviour is proven then that may be relevant to this Forum; while it remains unproven I would suggest it is inappropriate to discuss it on here.

 

[TeaLovingDave]

Things are continuing to stray into off-topic and legally problematic ground despite several attempts to redirect the course of the thread; as such I think it would be prudent if the discussion ended here. I shall lock the thread and when/if anything pertinent to the original thread topic emerges, one of the moderation team will post within the thread whilst keeping it closed.

 

[TeaLovingDave]

Can't say I am surprised......

We have been overwhelmed by the love and support that is out there for the zoo and what we bring to individuals and the community as a whole. The result of the 20+ thousand signatures on private petitions has led to a round table meeting between the Management of the Zoo and the Chief Executive of Barrow Borough Council.
In response to this very positive and constructive move and as a show of good faith the Zoo management has agreed to open throughout the negotiations.
Our major winter construction and maintenance programme is now underway and a number of areas of the zoo will be not available and disabled access will be restricted until the works are completed and because of this we have decided to open our gates for FREE in January 2016. Yes EVERYONE enters for FREE.
Very soon the zoo itself shall become a Charity and we need your support in every way possible to promote and expand our conservation breeding programmes in the Zoo and with our top class partners within EAZA and more importantly to expand our direct action projects all over the globe with critically endangered wildlife and habitats.
So please show your support in the best way you always do, come visit and drop some money in the buckets; have lunch; a coffee; feed the animals... take a ride on the trains or just wander around over 1000 animals! 10am to 4.30pm EVERYDAY.
Karen
On behalf of the Management Team.