Noah's Ark Zoo Farm Tigers have arrived!

Riziki said:
But more zoos are seeking to hold Pure bred's if a zoo has space for a non-breeding hybrid individual or siblings thats great but more and more are trying to hold Amur/Sumtran Tigers instead of Hybrids.
Most zoos have no space left,
Howletts and Port Lympne are filling up steadily aswell as South Lakes,Whipsnade,London,Banham,Welsh Mountain etc.
Anyone know any zoos that would have space and be happy for Hybrid Bengals?
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Not always the case, there will always be collection that will have the animals, esp as the pure bred species are sometimes hard to come by.
 
taun said:
Not always the case, there will always be collection that will have the animals, esp as the pure bred species are sometimes hard to come by.
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Noah's Ark may not have thought this all through anyway. Tigers are a new species for them and the idea of breeding and having small cubs on display may seem very attractive and novel for them. What happens later when they grow up may not seem too important at present but I agree that Tigers can usually be placed somewhere, even if it is in Safari Park or small zoo without too much problem..
 
Pertinax said:
Noah's Ark may not have thought this all through anyway. Tigers are a new species for them and the idea of breeding and having small cubs on display may seem very attractive and novel for them. What happens later when they grow up may not seem too important at present but I agree that Tigers can usually be placed somewhere, even if it is in Safari Park or small zoo without too much problem..
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I agree that they do not realise what they have gotten themselves into, however I feel that them having hybrids now is a good thing as a learning curve for them and then hopefully in a 10 plus years time then they could potential participate in a breeding programme for a pure sub-species.
 
Pertinax said:
Tigers can usually be placed somewhere, even if it is in Safari Park or small zoo without too much problem..
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This is like going back to the 1970's, though.

One problem is you're potentially taking away spaces for surplus studbook animals by breeding more 'unwanted' hybrids, a factor that is sometimes overlooked, but a serious one in any breeding programme.
 
The tiger EEP is searching new holders for ALL purebred subspecies, and new holders can get a pair easily, although not a breeding recommendation. Many potentional breeding pairs must not breed at the moment because there would be no space for the cubs. It is simply not true that there are many zoos happy to take hybrids. Given the situation above (=breeding limitations for purebred tigers), every hybrid takes away important space for purebred, critically endangered subspecies, and the zoos listed above as having potentional space for hybrids (Colchester, Belfast) will most likely and hopefully fill their enclosures with purebred tigers. I can`t see anything positive in keeping and even breeding hybrids - thanks god the Aspinall zoos have stopped the nonsense with their "bengal" tigers and are now concentrating on purebred amur and sumatran tigers. There will always be hybrids availible from private owners, circusses and roadside zoos, so why the h** breeding any more? Noah`s Ark could participate in the tiger EEP with a pure subspecies right NOW!
 
Yassa said:
Noah`s Ark could participate in the tiger EEP with a pure subspecies right NOW!
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Two factors which might stand in their way though;

1. How long might they have to wait though before receiving purebred stock?

2. Presumably the EEP would inspect the housing- if, as is quite possible, it is found to be below standard, then they would have to upgrade it or be refused the animals?

Remember this is a Farm recently turned 'Zoo' and I somehow doubt very much that Noah's Ark are concerned with purebred races of animals, they just want to exhibit Tigers in the enclosure they have built, without any 'hassles' and that's as far as it goes.
 
Added some pics of the tiger enclosure. I was pleasantly surprised, it wasn't groundbreaking but adequate. There are a few bamboo plants and trees, all hotwired for the moment, not sure if the wire will ever come off but we'll have to wait and see. They say it's an acre in size which looked about right, and it was split into four, two biggest enclosures being in the middle, smaller ones to the side. If it housed a pair then it is quite well designed, as it would allow them to rotate between sides without interaction, great if the female had cubs or they were incompatible. But since they're apparently getting 3 more tigers to add to their pair what I just typed was a waste of space :rolleyes:
 
Pertinax said:
Remember this is a Farm recently turned 'Zoo' and I somehow doubt very much that Noah's Ark are concerned with purebred races of animals, they just want to exhibit Tigers in the enclosure they have built, without any 'hassles' and that's as far as it goes.
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Surprisingly the place has now been open for 15 years!
 
Pertinax said:
I didn't realise it was that long- still 'recent' in my book though.;)
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Yes but if you compare it to how its viewed by the zoo world look at the species that the brand new Yorkshire Wildlife Park has got,while Noahs gets un-wanted animals or they have to buy them!
 
zoogiraffe said:
Yes but if you compare it to how its viewed by the zoo world look at the species that the brand new Yorkshire Wildlife Park has got,while Noahs gets un-wanted animals or they have to buy them!
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That's why I woudn't expect to see them being allocated purebred Tigers from EEP breeding programmes.
 
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