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First visit to Twycross for about 18 months (even though it's on my door step). I'm strapped for time at moment but want to give so I'm trying a slightly different style of review. Hope it works...............


Driving in, no queues (great), cat park not waterlogged (great), car park modelled on Sea of Tranquility (not so great).

Walk towards entrance building (try to ignore “Boardman Hubris Aviary” as it’ll put me in a bad mood), bloody hell it’s noisy in here, adults in kids play zone thang (that’s different, ahh “parentally supervised”, avoids litigation I suppose).

Through entrance kiosks (no maps, no problem, I know my way around), straight up (Conservation Way, whatever) to peel off left to check out new tiger enclosure. Oh, I can’t turn left there, never mind I’ll turn left after the De Brazza’s (nice size group with young again), oh it’s blocked off nowadays (maybe I could have done with a map after all), never mind I’ll turn left near the orangs (without looking at the enclosure/inhabitants, too depressing), oh it’s blocked off nowadays. Finally turn left after the parrot aviaries (one, lovely, lone Vasa out).

Nice playground (seriously) where Langur House used to be (god, I miss their smell), kangaroos inside, glad to see otter enclosure wasn’t killed by tiger enclosure. Tiger enclosure, big (enough) but bloody hell it’s fugly (really fugly). Functional but little attempts at prettying up (maybe that’s the Twycross way now?), funnily enough none of those trees shown in the artist’s impression are present, indoor dens nicely done though. general impression? Marginally bigger/better than the sort of enclosure for tigers you’d see at a “UK Championship level zoo” (maybe that’s where Twycross is now?).

Wonder what’s in the old enclosure that used to house the Mogadon Chimps? Oh Mara (is anybody even trying?). Nevermind, let’s enjoy the smell of the Lemur House, oh that’s blocked off. Never mind, let’s trudge past a load of empty space (wait a minute, that’s becoming a thing here) to see the Tufted Deer. And relax, one’s out and it’s gorgeous. Go down to bottom (there used to be ground hornbills there you know) and double back to see some Lemurs, maybe I can go inside (alas not).

Okay, gorillas, bit cramped inside the visitor area but always nice to see Gorilla gorilla (no youngsters on view?). Right chimps next, oh no “exit only”, millisecond dilemma -do I traipse back where I came from and add a massive unnecessary loop to my visit or ignore the sign (no brainer, coming through!!!). I like this enclosure, it’s really good only let down by the (too narrow) visitor area which is really bad.

Out through the in door (wasn’t that a Led Zep album?), giraffes next (two of), now mixed with Nyala (none seen). Giraffes doing the neck banging dominance wrestle thang, good to watch, I’ll stroll down the far end to get a better view (works) and then go along bottom of rhino paddock to join up with martens (doesn’t work, no entry, grrrrrrrrrrrrrr!). Retrace steps warning others following in my footsteps that they’re wasting their time.

Look into elephant, I mean rhino house, quite pleased I’ve now got a rhino around ½ hour drive from home. “Monkeys of the Amazon” next, none outside, I’ll see them inside (no I won’t, no entry now). Quite a few zebras now (four? five?). Bonobos good value with usual shenanigoats ensuing amongst them. Callitrichids House next, blimey another lot of walking with little to view. Callitrichids down to four species now (when I was a lad….). All inside, never mind… oh mind (another no entry for the insides). Francois Langur (always nice), tortoises (dull, for me), empty enclosure (used to be Bat-eared Foxes), Dik-dik (four of) very nice.

Owls (nice enclosures, meh species), L’hoests (with bouncy youngster), martens (no show), Seriema, Bush Dogs (always good value and I like the enclosure conversion -if you squint and look towards the rock back drop you can pretend you’re at Tierpark). Walkthrough aviary (meh and when I was a lad……), flamingo/pelican lagoon works, penguins (they’ve given up making excuses that green is temporary), can’t be bothered walking over there for tapirs, etc.

How do I get out of here, not through there, oh that way! Past lorikeets, towards gibbons (Siamang on pole outside) Colobus (nice), Crowned Lemur (nice). Let’s check out Butterfly House (where’s all the side exhibits gone????), Pets Corner (can’t be bothered, bet I find out there’s something nice in there when I get home). That’ll do for today, hope the car park doesn’t mess my suspension.

Conclusions? Curate’s Egg (good, bad, ugly and fugly). Gonna take forever to get everything up to muster? Forever doomed to play catch up unless big grants/rich donor? Don’t tell me about the conveyor belt of x year plans that come along every y years.

Can’t say I didn’t enjoy it but might think different if I’d come a long way (it’s 30 minutes away). If anyone much north of me asked I’d say they’d be better off heading to Yorkshire Wildlife Park unless they’re jonesing for a primate fix. See you again Twycross (in another 18 months), wonder if you’ll change my mind next time.
 
First visit to Twycross for about 18 months (even though it's on my door step). I'm strapped for time at moment but want to give so I'm trying a slightly different style of review. Hope it works...............


Driving in, no queues (great), cat park not waterlogged (great), car park modelled on Sea of Tranquility (not so great).

Walk towards entrance building (try to ignore “Boardman Hubris Aviary” as it’ll put me in a bad mood), bloody hell it’s noisy in here, adults in kids play zone thang (that’s different, ahh “parentally supervised”, avoids litigation I suppose).

Through entrance kiosks (no maps, no problem, I know my way around), straight up (Conservation Way, whatever) to peel off left to check out new tiger enclosure. Oh, I can’t turn left there, never mind I’ll turn left after the De Brazza’s (nice size group with young again), oh it’s blocked off nowadays (maybe I could have done with a map after all), never mind I’ll turn left near the orangs (without looking at the enclosure/inhabitants, too depressing), oh it’s blocked off nowadays. Finally turn left after the parrot aviaries (one, lovely, lone Vasa out).

Nice playground (seriously) where Langur House used to be (god, I miss their smell), kangaroos inside, glad to see otter enclosure wasn’t killed by tiger enclosure. Tiger enclosure, big (enough) but bloody hell it’s fugly (really fugly). Functional but little attempts at prettying up (maybe that’s the Twycross way now?), funnily enough none of those trees shown in the artist’s impression are present, indoor dens nicely done though. general impression? Marginally bigger/better than the sort of enclosure for tigers you’d see at a “UK Championship level zoo” (maybe that’s where Twycross is now?).

Wonder what’s in the old enclosure that used to house the Mogadon Chimps? Oh Mara (is anybody even trying?). Nevermind, let’s enjoy the smell of the Lemur House, oh that’s blocked off. Never mind, let’s trudge past a load of empty space (wait a minute, that’s becoming a thing here) to see the Tufted Deer. And relax, one’s out and it’s gorgeous. Go down to bottom (there used to be ground hornbills there you know) and double back to see some Lemurs, maybe I can go inside (alas not).

Okay, gorillas, bit cramped inside the visitor area but always nice to see Gorilla gorilla (no youngsters on view?). Right chimps next, oh no “exit only”, millisecond dilemma -do I traipse back where I came from and add a massive unnecessary loop to my visit or ignore the sign (no brainer, coming through!!!). I like this enclosure, it’s really good only let down by the (too narrow) visitor area which is really bad.

Out through the in door (wasn’t that a Led Zep album?), giraffes next (two of), now mixed with Nyala (none seen). Giraffes doing the neck banging dominance wrestle thang, good to watch, I’ll stroll down the far end to get a better view (works) and then go along bottom of rhino paddock to join up with martens (doesn’t work, no entry, grrrrrrrrrrrrrr!). Retrace steps warning others following in my footsteps that they’re wasting their time.

Look into elephant, I mean rhino house, quite pleased I’ve now got a rhino around ½ hour drive from home. “Monkeys of the Amazon” next, none outside, I’ll see them inside (no I won’t, no entry now). Quite a few zebras now (four? five?). Bonobos good value with usual shenanigoats ensuing amongst them. Callitrichids House next, blimey another lot of walking with little to view. Callitrichids down to four species now (when I was a lad….). All inside, never mind… oh mind (another no entry for the insides). Francois Langur (always nice), tortoises (dull, for me), empty enclosure (used to be Bat-eared Foxes), Dik-dik (four of) very nice.

Owls (nice enclosures, meh species), L’hoests (with bouncy youngster), martens (no show), Seriema, Bush Dogs (always good value and I like the enclosure conversion -if you squint and look towards the rock back drop you can pretend you’re at Tierpark). Walkthrough aviary (meh and when I was a lad……), flamingo/pelican lagoon works, penguins (they’ve given up making excuses that green is temporary), can’t be bothered walking over there for tapirs, etc.

How do I get out of here, not through there, oh that way! Past lorikeets, towards gibbons (Siamang on pole outside) Colobus (nice), Crowned Lemur (nice). Let’s check out Butterfly House (where’s all the side exhibits gone????), Pets Corner (can’t be bothered, bet I find out there’s something nice in there when I get home). That’ll do for today, hope the car park doesn’t mess my suspension.

Conclusions? Curate’s Egg (good, bad, ugly and fugly). Gonna take forever to get everything up to muster? Forever doomed to play catch up unless big grants/rich donor? Don’t tell me about the conveyor belt of x year plans that come along every y years.

Can’t say I didn’t enjoy it but might think different if I’d come a long way (it’s 30 minutes away). If anyone much north of me asked I’d say they’d be better off heading to Yorkshire Wildlife Park unless they’re jonesing for a primate fix. See you again Twycross (in another 18 months), wonder if you’ll change my mind next time.

I can't figure out what the point of the new fences and blocked off areas are. It doesn't seem to serve any real purpose and makes the zoo even uglier than it was before. One way system to ease flow at busy times? I can't see that, it just makes choosing the way you view the various exhibits more difficult than previously.
 
If anyone much north of me asked I’d say they’d be better off heading to Yorkshire Wildlife Park unless they’re jonesing for a primate fix.

Or, increasingly, an ape fix. Otherwise YWP has plentiful primates for all but the most specifically-targeted monkey fan or list-building nerd these days - two lemurs, baboon, saki, and tamarin on full show and Roloway, red howler and gelada also visible and soon to be fully on show.

Those barriers are just frustrating and don't seem to produce any particular narrative or better views - I can only interpret them as intended to lengthen 'dwell time' in the zoo given the reduced number of species.

And yes, the 'nice thing' you missed in the Pets' Corner was indeed gundi. ;)
 
Those barriers are just frustrating and don't seem to produce any particular narrative or better views - I can only interpret them as intended to lengthen 'dwell time' in the zoo given the reduced number of species.

I think there's a chance they might prove counter-productive in that respect. It's entirely possible after one long trudge around, including quite a few stretches where there's not much to see and having gone down various cul-de-sacs (e.g giraffes), visitors might be disinclined to go a long route back to re-view anything a second time. Compared with the more free-wheeling visiting style permissible without the barriers where visitors might meander more and follow the action/crowds on a whim.

And yes, the 'nice thing' you missed in the Pets' Corner was indeed gundi. ;)

Yeah, that would have been worth the extra effort. :oops:
 
First visit to Twycross for about 18 months (even though it's on my door step). I'm strapped for time at moment but want to give so I'm trying a slightly different style of review. Hope it works...............


Driving in, no queues (great), cat park not waterlogged (great), car park modelled on Sea of Tranquility (not so great).

Walk towards entrance building (try to ignore “Boardman Hubris Aviary” as it’ll put me in a bad mood), bloody hell it’s noisy in here, adults in kids play zone thang (that’s different, ahh “parentally supervised”, avoids litigation I suppose).

Through entrance kiosks (no maps, no problem, I know my way around), straight up (Conservation Way, whatever) to peel off left to check out new tiger enclosure. Oh, I can’t turn left there, never mind I’ll turn left after the De Brazza’s (nice size group with young again), oh it’s blocked off nowadays (maybe I could have done with a map after all), never mind I’ll turn left near the orangs (without looking at the enclosure/inhabitants, too depressing), oh it’s blocked off nowadays. Finally turn left after the parrot aviaries (one, lovely, lone Vasa out).

Nice playground (seriously) where Langur House used to be (god, I miss their smell), kangaroos inside, glad to see otter enclosure wasn’t killed by tiger enclosure. Tiger enclosure, big (enough) but bloody hell it’s fugly (really fugly). Functional but little attempts at prettying up (maybe that’s the Twycross way now?), funnily enough none of those trees shown in the artist’s impression are present, indoor dens nicely done though. general impression? Marginally bigger/better than the sort of enclosure for tigers you’d see at a “UK Championship level zoo” (maybe that’s where Twycross is now?).

Wonder what’s in the old enclosure that used to house the Mogadon Chimps? Oh Mara (is anybody even trying?). Nevermind, let’s enjoy the smell of the Lemur House, oh that’s blocked off. Never mind, let’s trudge past a load of empty space (wait a minute, that’s becoming a thing here) to see the Tufted Deer. And relax, one’s out and it’s gorgeous. Go down to bottom (there used to be ground hornbills there you know) and double back to see some Lemurs, maybe I can go inside (alas not).

Okay, gorillas, bit cramped inside the visitor area but always nice to see Gorilla gorilla (no youngsters on view?). Right chimps next, oh no “exit only”, millisecond dilemma -do I traipse back where I came from and add a massive unnecessary loop to my visit or ignore the sign (no brainer, coming through!!!). I like this enclosure, it’s really good only let down by the (too narrow) visitor area which is really bad.

Out through the in door (wasn’t that a Led Zep album?), giraffes next (two of), now mixed with Nyala (none seen). Giraffes doing the neck banging dominance wrestle thang, good to watch, I’ll stroll down the far end to get a better view (works) and then go along bottom of rhino paddock to join up with martens (doesn’t work, no entry, grrrrrrrrrrrrrr!). Retrace steps warning others following in my footsteps that they’re wasting their time.

Look into elephant, I mean rhino house, quite pleased I’ve now got a rhino around ½ hour drive from home. “Monkeys of the Amazon” next, none outside, I’ll see them inside (no I won’t, no entry now). Quite a few zebras now (four? five?). Bonobos good value with usual shenanigoats ensuing amongst them. Callitrichids House next, blimey another lot of walking with little to view. Callitrichids down to four species now (when I was a lad….). All inside, never mind… oh mind (another no entry for the insides). Francois Langur (always nice), tortoises (dull, for me), empty enclosure (used to be Bat-eared Foxes), Dik-dik (four of) very nice.

Owls (nice enclosures, meh species), L’hoests (with bouncy youngster), martens (no show), Seriema, Bush Dogs (always good value and I like the enclosure conversion -if you squint and look towards the rock back drop you can pretend you’re at Tierpark). Walkthrough aviary (meh and when I was a lad……), flamingo/pelican lagoon works, penguins (they’ve given up making excuses that green is temporary), can’t be bothered walking over there for tapirs, etc.

How do I get out of here, not through there, oh that way! Past lorikeets, towards gibbons (Siamang on pole outside) Colobus (nice), Crowned Lemur (nice). Let’s check out Butterfly House (where’s all the side exhibits gone????), Pets Corner (can’t be bothered, bet I find out there’s something nice in there when I get home). That’ll do for today, hope the car park doesn’t mess my suspension.

Conclusions? Curate’s Egg (good, bad, ugly and fugly). Gonna take forever to get everything up to muster? Forever doomed to play catch up unless big grants/rich donor? Don’t tell me about the conveyor belt of x year plans that come along every y years.

Can’t say I didn’t enjoy it but might think different if I’d come a long way (it’s 30 minutes away). If anyone much north of me asked I’d say they’d be better off heading to Yorkshire Wildlife Park unless they’re jonesing for a primate fix. See you again Twycross (in another 18 months), wonder if you’ll change my mind next time.
I suggest you also twitter up their PR inbox as it underlines a sub prime visitor experience? If they show any maturity they would have to look into and act upon Some of the more annoying blockages and empty spaces so they should provide more value for money in future. BTW very entertaining piece of zoo poetry to read! Thanks
 
I suggest you also twitter up their PR inbox as it underlines a sub prime visitor experience? If they show any maturity they would have to look into and act upon Some of the more annoying blockages and empty spaces so they should provide more value for money in future. BTW very entertaining piece of zoo poetry to read! Thanks
I can only agree with you there, though the place is close to my heart having grown up around it and it has been a fantastic turn around these last few years I feel the next twelve to eighteen months should be spent on a good tidy up and focus on guest experience rather the new species / enclosures either repurpose or remove the empty enclosures and consolidate the play areas, there seams to be one around every corner at the min, and that train play equipment does more miles than some British rail line being moved around the zoo scrap the thing and have a good tidy up please :)
 
I think there's a chance they might prove counter-productive in that respect. It's entirely possible after one long trudge around, including quite a few stretches where there's not much to see and having gone down various cul-de-sacs (e.g giraffes), visitors might be disinclined to go a long route back to re-view anything a second time. Compared with the more free-wheeling visiting style permissible without the barriers where visitors might meander more and follow the action/crowds on a whim.

Yeah, it's an odd one. My thinking was that they would be trying to 'force' you to see everything (albeit probably only once..!).
 
Yeah, it's an odd one. My thinking was that they would be trying to 'force' you to see everything (albeit probably only once..!).

I just don't get it at all- apart from how even more ugly the place is now. It is very much not an 'improvement' IMO and they still need more of those at present.
 
I suggest you also twitter up their PR inbox as it underlines a sub prime visitor experience? If they show any maturity they would have to look into and act upon
First I must state that I have not been to Twycross since Ms Badham died, but I would make a couple of comments. Perhaps the huge discounting and large rise in peak time footfall has resulted in the need for the new access systems? In addition although they would be advised to look into any (negative) comments, they would not have to act upon them as stated here. If their general visitors who have little or no memories of the site, are happy with the layout, then so be it...
 
I think this is a little negative and unfair. I agree about the fences and "one way" systems, but you cannot dispute that the place has had significant and sustained improvement. Gibbon Forest, Chimpanzee Eden, the elephant situation etc. Cut the place some slack. Rome wasn't built in a day.
 
I think this is a little negative and unfair. I agree about the fences and "one way" systems, but you cannot dispute that the place has had significant and sustained improvement. Gibbon Forest, Chimpanzee Eden, the elephant situation etc. Cut the place some slack. Rome wasn't built in a day.
Why? I thought my comment was measured, balanced and actually pretty supportive...
 
Why? I thought my comment was measured, balanced and actually pretty supportive...
I don't think the response was aimed at your post, which wasn't negative at all! Probably at some of the earlier posts, but since @jamie779 agreed regarding the blocked off pathways, I really don't understand his criticism!
 
I don't think the response was aimed at your post, which wasn't negative at all! Probably at some of the earlier posts, but since @jamie779 agreed regarding the blocked off pathways, I really don't understand his criticism!

Indeed, and thank you. As it sat directly below mine, it did look somewhat like a reply. As I said I haven't been to Twycross for a while, but the site was quite open in the past. I well remember Molly saying she needed to get everywhere in her Renault 5 (which had its seats and interior door handles removed to stop the Chimps from getting out), so everything had been planted or built at least 'one Renault 5' apart! As a result it was very easy to stand in one spot and see much of the place. Maybe now they are wanting a more 'immersive' experience?, along with the larger visitor numbers..? Introducing dead-ends, as Colchester did in many places, seems to me to stop foot-flow and cause irritation, BUT it certainly does not seem to have affected their visitor numbers and/or satifaction...
 
Introducing dead-ends, as Colchester did in many places, seems to me to stop foot-flow and cause irritation, BUT it certainly does not seem to have affected their visitor numbers and/or satifaction...

Well it certainly caused me some irritation,:mad: but it will obviously have no bearing on visitor numbers whatsoever...they'll just keep coming willnilly. Having visited since the sixties though I'd say there have definately been some major improvements in recent years under the current management, though some of them, like the Chimpanzee housing and Elephant departures have been very long overdue. But I think all this recent fencing is something of a backward step.
 
To be honest I visit probably once a month and have gotten used to the fencing, with it cutting the zoo in half almost it can and will make your visit longer than previously as it is a medium sized zoo this could make your average visitor, not a zoo chatter feel they are getting better value for money. And I think with all the recent developments the visitors have become a custom to large fenced areas, some probably feel its there as part of future developments. As mentioned in the first thread, if the path around the bottom of the rhino is closed I can thing this is only temporary as it was open 2 weeks ago And before Christmas probably just water logged.
 
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