Walk-through primate enclosures

[Hupie]

Apenheul has walk-through enclosures with barbary monkeys:

And 2 groups of squirrel monkeys (100 and 60 monkeys I believe), als walk through with white faced-saki's and golden lion tamarins, red tit and
Golden-headed Lion Tamarin.

The lemur part has Red ruffed lemur, ring tailed lemur, and Red-bellied Lemurs.

A lake and many three's to climb.

Squirrel monkeys between visitors is also in Gaiapark kerkrasde(50 monkeys), Emmen Zoo.

In Amsterdam zoo Artis they put red ruffed lemurs and ringtaild lemurs and Black-and-white Ruffed Lemur on one walk through island. It doesn't work. The ringtaild lemurs are back in the mammalhouse, and the Black-and-white Ruffed Lemurs are not in a exhibith, the red ruffed lemurs won the fight and are the ''survivers'' on the lemur island.

Aquazoo Friesland now has Red ruffed and ringtaild lemurs on the biggest walk through lemur island of Europe. They have Red-bellied Lemurs and Crowned Lemur lemurs in the inside enclosure because they can't live together.

Overloon has also red ruffed lemurs and kattas combinated in a walkthrough area with White-headed Lemur.

As you can see Holland is full of Ring tailed lemurs. Also Hilvarenbeek, Amersfoort, Rhenen and Wissel and Emmen got these animals.
Special species are the White-belted Black-and-white Ruffed Lemur in Leeuwarden(aquazoo) and Best.

 

[CZJimmy]

There is a park devoted to a walk-through for Barbary Macaques near to where I live, named Trentham Monkey Forest

 

[JamesB]

i would love to visit apenhuel, it looks a great zoo and very unique in its own way

 

[kiang]

I think those idiots who beat up the flamingo in Adelaide should be used to test out a new walk through exhibit for a troop of hamadryas baboon!

 

[JamesB]

nice idea kiang! or maybe some very hungry chimps

 

[nicholas]

Apenheul has also free-ranging wooly monkeys, but it is full of keepers who chase away monkeys and remind visitors.

I wonder if spider monkeys, langurs and gibbons could be kept free-range, if branches in their exhibit would be placed away and much above visitors, so that animals would find it unconvenient to come close to people?

I think this would be depending on the individuals. I know both spider monkey and langur (Semnopithecus) has been tried, and failed due to the primates being aggressive to the public. With gibbons, I think the chances of success are slim. Many (most?) gibbons are too aggressive even for their keepers to enter their enclosure.

 

[zooman]

I think this would be depending on the individuals. I know both spider monkey and langur (Semnopithecus) has been tried, and failed due to the primates being aggressive to the public. With gibbons, I think the chances of success are slim. Many (most?) gibbons are too aggressive even for their keepers to enter their enclosure.

Hi nicholas, so gibbons, spider monkey and langur given the oportunity will show agression to the public and keepers. Is it all just display.

Could it be compared to wild mountain gorillas. they also show aggressive behaviour butt after a period of time this stops.

 

[boof]

Gibbons are dangerous. I once heard a Dubbo zoo keeper rate them as the most dangerous animal at the zoo after the big cats and the hunting dogs.
p.S Zooman there is only one T in but. 2 T's in the butt that you sit on.

 

[zooman]

Gibbons are dangerous. I once heard a Dubbo zoo keeper rate them as the most dangerous animal at the zoo after the big cats and the hunting dogs.
p.S Zooman there is only one T in but. 2 T's in the butt that you sit on.

Okay FINE spelling and grammar are not my strong points.

But Boof you know glass houses and all. Well aren’t you missing some full stops and commas? From this sentence.

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I once heard a Dubbo zoo keeper rate them as the most dangerous animal at the zoo after the big cats and the hunting dogs..[/QUOTE]

I think that’s its best to keep to topic. Not personnel judgement on others.

Yes by the way l did spell check this post

 

[torie]

I once heard a Dubbo zoo keeper rate them as the most dangerous animal at the zoo after the big cats and the hunting dogs..[/QUOTE]

I think that’s its best to keep to topic. Not personnel judgement on others.

Yes by the way l did spell check this po


i dont think boof was making a judgement about the dubbo keeper, just saying that gibbons remain aggressive even towards people they have known fo a long time and therfore would not be good candidates for walk through exhibits


i was also wondering, woud the avaliability and the status eg endangered ect affect what species would be keept in walk through, would zoos risk endangered monkeys and gibbons in such close contact to people?

 

[nicholas]

i was also wondering, woud the avaliability and the status eg endangered ect affect what species would be keept in walk through, would zoos risk endangered monkeys and gibbons in such close contact to people?

Again, this is up to every zoo to decide. Jersey had Black Lion Tamarins and Silvery marmosets free ranging (so not actually in a walk-through). Apenheul stopped their woolly monkey walk-through because they felt it didn't optimize the breeding. I'd think that most zoo's wouldn't choose the most endangered animals for walk-through, but then again, ruffed lemurs are very common in this situation so... Go figure.

 

[Steve Robinson]

I am intrigued that no-one has mentioned the zoonoses implications with primate walk throughs.

In Australia, particularly, there was a degree of hysteria about Macaques/Herpes B that I have never encountered anywhere before. This despite the fact that there have been NO human fatalities in this country from Herpes B. Fortunately ARAZPA is now starting to rethink the Herpes B situation but it remains a fact that EVERY macaque species in Australia is to be phased out of ARAZPA zoos.

I was therefore fascinated to see Macaques in a walk through in England - our regulators would have forty fits at a sight like that!

 

[ZYBen]

Thats what i had thought too Steve.

Would the DEH or equivilent in say QLD be opposed to walkthough primate facilities?

Its not always a case of what the Zoo's want but what the government will allow, and i cant see any govenrment authority Saying "yeah go for it, let people in with your monkeys unsupervised"

Even though i am sure we will all agree its a great experience for visitors.

 

[Pertinax]

I was therefore fascinated to see Macaques in a walk through in England - our regulators would have forty fits at a sight like that!

But the odd thing is some years ago there was a big scare in the UK over Macaques transmitting diseases to the public, principally via saliva contact. So a ruling was made they should only be displayed behind glass where there was any danger of contact involved.. As a result a couple of SAfari Parks which had large colonies of Rhesus macaques in drive through reserves quietly 'disposed' of them at this time though this large scale euthanasia did become public knowledge.

It is strange that Trentham have since set up and continue to have Barbary macaques in a walk- through area, though I don't know anywhere else in the UK where visitors can be in close contact with Macaques anymore.

 

[Steve Robinson]

It is strange that Trentham have since set up and continue to have Barbary macaques in a walk- through area, though I don't know anywhere else in the UK where visitors can be in close contact with Macaques anymore.

Rhesus in a drive through at Longleat?????????

 

[zooman]

Hey Steve, is it allowed in Australia to have a walk through primate exhibit?

Or has it been made law. That it is not allowed?

I know victoria passed a law that Whales and Dolphins could not be held in captivity in this state.

 

[Pertinax]

Rhesus in a drive through at Longleat?????????

Yes, you're right. I don't know if Longleat had them before the 'scare' and didn't euthanase them, or have built up a colony much more recently. I believe two uk safari parks (at least) put whole large colonies down but can't remember which ones. It seems to show another shift in legislation- how come its okay for them to have them again now?

 

[zoogiraffe]

Yes, you're right. I don't know if Longleat had them before the 'scare' and didn't euthanase them, or have built up a colony much more recently. I believe two uk safari parks (at least) put whole large colonies down but can't remember which ones. It seems to show another shift in legislation- how come its okay for them to have them again now?

One of the Safari Parks that put them down was West Midlands the other one i`m not sure about.

 

[JamesB]

One of the Safari Parks that put them down was West Midlands the other one i`m not sure about.

woburn or blair drummond prehaps?

 

[zoogiraffe]

woburn or blair drummond prehaps?

Its not Blair drummond i know that for sure don`t think they have kept any Primates apart from Chimps,Lemurs and Marmosets.