Waterfowl in North America pt 2: Sheldgeese to Dabbling Ducks

jayjds2 said:
Also the Ellen Trout Zoo.

The following species are additionally kept by Sylvan Heights:












Flying steamer duck was recently acquired by the Philadelphia Zoo.
SDZ also keeps Patagonian crested duck.
Saint Louis also keeps white-winged wood duck.
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When did St. Louis get White-Winged Wood Duck?

Daktari JG said:
St Louis used to have an outstanding waterfowl collection, its such a shame
they have essentially phased most of it out. Nowadays the 3 central lakes seem almost barren compared to the heyday.
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It was definitely not empty this summer...
 
They only list a dozen or so species and almost all native. I suspect you saw a lot of visitors.
 
Here is a list of every waterfowl species I saw at the zoo in June (and where I saw them):

1904 World's Fair Flight Cage and Edward K. Love Conservation Foundation Cypress Swamp
Blue-Winged Teal
Northern Pintail
Northern Shoveler
Bufflehead
Hooded Merganser
Canvasback
Wood Duck
Ruddy Duck

Bird House
Ringed Teal

Lakeside Crossing/Chain of Lakes
Black-Necked Swan
Red-Crested Pochard
Egyptian Goose
Cackling Goose
Canada Goose (most were probably wild but I suspect some captive)
Mallard (most were probably wild but I suspect some captive)
Bar-Headed Goose
Swan Goose (wild type)
Chestnut Teal

Penguin & Puffin Coast
King Eider

The Wild
Wood Duck

Not an awful collection.
 
Daktari JG said:
St Louis used to have an outstanding waterfowl collection, its such a shame
they have essentially phased most of it out. Nowadays the 3 central lakes seem almost barren compared to the heyday.
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Sadly the same is happening in most zoos. Very, very few are actually growing their collections any more.
birdsandbats said:
When did St. Louis get White-Winged Wood Duck?


It was definitely not empty this summer...
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There was one on exhibit on my visit this summer in the Bird House.
 
I'm inclined to think that Egyptian Goose is an undercount. Can't speak to any others that have them other than St. Louis though
 
St. Louis doesn't seem to have Egyptian goose anymore. Also, Grant's Farm has some mallards in their waterfowl lake and in Mirror Lake and the Deer Park visible on the tram ride. I suspect its a mix of wild and captive, but its hard to know for sure
 
cloudedleopard611 said:
St. Louis doesn't seem to have Egyptian goose anymore. Also, Grant's Farm has some mallards in their waterfowl lake and in Mirror Lake and the Deer Park visible on the tram ride. I suspect its a mix of wild and captive, but its hard to know for sure
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Unless any had some captive traits (in which case they would not be included in this thread anyway), it is safe to assume all of those Mallards are wild.
 
I don't see any mention of yellow-billed ducks. Are they not dabbling ducks? I believe Cincinnati Zoo and Rosamond Gifford Zoo have them, in addition to a few other locations.
 
birdsandbats said:
Same species as Yellow-billed Teal.
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I thought yellow-billed ducks are native to East and South-central Africa whereas yellow-billed teals are found in Patagonia. I am probably wrong, but have you actually heard that they are the same species, or are you just assuming that. Again, I will accept that I'm wrong, but want to be sure.

I apologize if I have come across as rude, my communication skills are poor, something that I can attribute to my diagnoses.
 
wild boar said:
I thought yellow-billed ducks are native to East and South-central Africa whereas yellow-billed teals are found in Patagonia. I am probably wrong, but have you actually heard that they are the same species, or are you just assuming that. Again, I will accept that I'm wrong, but want to be sure.

I apologize if I have come across as rude, my communication skills are poor, something that I can attribute to my diagnoses.
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There is a similarly named species in Patagonia, the Yellow-billed Pintail. I assume you're thinking of that.
 
Yellow-billed Duck, Yellow-billed Teal, and Yellow-billed Pintail are three different species, all in the genus Anas.

Yellow-billed Duck (A. undulata) - Africa
Yellow-billed Teal (A. flavirostris) - S. America
Yellow-billed Pintail (A. georgica) - S. America

Omaha and Jacksonville have the African species but are listed under "Yellow-billed Teal", so maybe that list is for Yellow-billed Duck... but it also says "Sharp-winged Teal" which specifically refers to one of the Yellow-billed Teal ssp. Sylvan Heights has all three species.
 
Coelacanth18 said:
Yellow-billed Duck, Yellow-billed Teal, and Yellow-billed Pintail are three different species, all in the genus Anas.

Yellow-billed Duck (A. undulata) - Africa
Yellow-billed Teal (A. flavirostris) - S. America
Yellow-billed Pintail (A. georgica) - S. America

Omaha and Jacksonville have the African species but are listed under "Yellow-billed Teal", so maybe that list is for Yellow-billed Duck... but it also says "Sharp-winged Teal" which specifically refers to one of the Yellow-billed Teal ssp. Sylvan Heights has all three species.
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All three species are present and the respective lists are for the intended species; however there seems to be some confusion between identifying undulata and flavirostris. Not sure where that came from but I have moved Jacksonville and Omaha to undulata on the master list. Sylvan Heights is already on all three species.
 
Great Argus said:
All three species are present and the respective lists are for the intended species; however there seems to be some confusion between identifying undulata and flavirostris. Not sure where that came from but I have moved Jacksonville and Omaha to undulata on the master list. Sylvan Heights is already on all three species.
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I didn't see a heading for undulata so I thought maybe they'd been combined with flavirostris or one was left off for some reason. There's other holders for undulata besides those two also - they were unsigned at Abilene last year, for example.
 
Coelacanth18 said:
I didn't see a heading for undulata so I thought maybe they'd been combined with flavirostris or one was left off for some reason. There's other holders for undulata besides those two also - they were unsigned at Abilene last year, for example.
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All three species are present on the master list - undulata was a late entry and so doesn't show on the list here. The waterfowl list badly needs updated, I just haven't gotten around to dealing with this massive group plagued by identification complexities. :confused:
 
Do many zoos display sea ducks like eiders? Or is that a different thread I didn't see?
 
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