I expect a huge boom in people dying then...
When will COVID-19 restrictions be lifted?
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Cause zoo is the only place you can catch it in...
I wasn't referring to the zoo visits...
It really boggles my mind that you appear to think this is a good thing.
These reopening in Georgia - as minimal as they are - are a perfect example of how not to handle this situation. The death rates are going down, why not extend the order longer and try and eradicate this for good instead of rushing things which lead to more death? I would be ecstatic to be wrong, but things are looking pretty grim. The stay at home order has been extended through May here in Illinois where it hasn't even peaked yet, I believe the same has been done for New York and Wisconsin.
I don't think we will see an end to this virus until a vaccine is made. The United States is far too populated of a country for this to be contained through social distancing imo.
I don't think we will see an end to this virus until a vaccine is made. The United States is far too populated of a country for this to be contained through social distancing imo.
Well, eradication is basically impossible. Eradication would take many months of strict lockdowns, an unfathomable amount of testing, and greater limitations of movement than we even have now. Not saying its the right time to open everything but given unemployment that is approaching that of the great depression, it's definitely not sustainable to keep the same levels of lockdown in much longer for large swaths of the country. States are hitting that decision point at what they will decide on how to open various sectors of their economies, and for certain states, they need to get things running otherwise they may have to declare bankruptcy (obviously this is also linked to prior economic conditions and decisions).
My state of NC is planning on keeping the strict stay at home order in until about May 8th, after which they will reopen the state in 3 phases over about 2 months. I'd expect our zoos will be included in phase 2 of reopening, although they could be in phase one provided they lower capacity and keep indoor spaces (bar restrooms) closed. We hit our peak about a week back, and data shows we are one of the states best positioned right now to keep numbers down.
I'm not necessarily saying this is a good choice at all - only that zoos will benefit, which itself is a good thing in many ways.
However, I do think that at least some states can, handle at least a partial reopening in the coming few weeks.
Of course, had it been taken seriously sooner not only would eradication have been entirely possible, but it wouldn't have required anywhere near the level of action you suggest
but of course, those of us who were concerned were just "hysterical" fools brainwashed by the media into fearing something less of a risk than flu or foot-and-mouth disease...... 
Zooplantman
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We cannot eradicate a disease that we barely understand.
We eradicated measles... until we didn't
We have no guarantee that there ever will be a vaccine. There is no precedent. The SARS vaccines were never deployed.
We never eradicated the flu and the annual vaccines are only on target some years.
It is understandable that everyone wants to "get back to normal" and for those who live in areas only lightly affected by the novel coronavirus I see that it must seem overblown. But here in New York we have a template for what could happen everywhere.
We do not have any good long-term choices but patience will be required whatever happens.
To be fair, the reason they were never deployed was that SARS was virulent enough that it burnt itself out as a circulating pathogen
as noted above, although it is unlikely we could have eradicated the virus entirely (given we aren't even entirely sure about the animal reservoir) had effective action been taken sooner I think it *is* possible we could have eradicated the virus as a circulating pathogen within the human population.
Zooplantman
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Indeed. Had the work proceeded to conclusion we would be way ahead today in identifying a vaccine for this related coronavirus. A valuable preparation for the next pandemic was abandoned because, well, no one thinks long-term when funding is involvedTo be fair, the reason they were never deployed was that SARS was virulent enough that it burnt itself out as a circulating pathogen
The United States is not ready to begin easing restrictions - What the Coronavirus Models Can’t See
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