Wild Colombia with Nigel Marven

In Africa, his most recent series, Sir Dave pointedly mentioned whenever obvious studio setups were used, eg naked molerats. Although not as melodramatic he is not that different from other presenters, watch any of his stuff and he talks about a subject and then blithely chances upon it immediately. I don't think there is anything wrong with that though, it's a fairly normal part of wildlife film-making.
 
Pygathrix said:
In Africa, his most recent series, Sir Dave pointedly mentioned whenever obvious studio setups were used, eg naked molerats. Although not as melodramatic he is not that different from other presenters, watch any of his stuff and he talks about a subject and then blithely chances upon it immediately. I don't think there is anything wrong with that though, it's a fairly normal part of wildlife film-making.
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Well his scenes tend to be him talking about lions with a close up of his body, and then the camera zooms out and lo and behold there is a pride of lions 3m away. That is a far cry from Nigel Marvin which is made to look like a reality show with a camera following him around. Attenborough's docs try to tell a story whereas Nigel (or Mr Nigel, as Hix would refer to him as) gives us the impression that he is back packing around china and Colombia with a camera crew in tow.
 
I distinguish between staged scenes for showing a behaviour (eg, studio work, or something like close-ups of rain-drops falling on a seed-pod to break it open) and out-right faked scenes like Austin Stevens and Nigel Marven. There is of course a continuum between the two where it gets blurry.
 
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Does anyone watch Man vs Wild with Bear Grylls? Only recently did he start revealing that "the locals brought in this cobra so I could show you how to kill it" rather than "here's a snake in my path". In one particular episode he supposedly caught a salmon using some silly method, but years later when I saw a rerun, the voice over said that he did not catch any salmon so the crew brought one in for him. I want to believe that viewers are becoming savvier in discerning 'real' from fake.
 
nanoboy said:
Does anyone watch Man vs Wild with Bear Grylls? Only recently did he start revealing that "the locals brought in this cobra so I could show you how to kill it" rather than "here's a snake in my path". In one particular episode he supposedly caught a salmon using some silly method, but years later when I saw a rerun, the voice over said that he did not catch any salmon so the crew brought one in for him. I want to believe that viewers are becoming savvier in discerning 'real' from fake.
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yeah all his earlier shows were outright fakes, the classic one was the Hawaii one where it was mostly filmed on perfectly safe tourist spots which he made out to be epicly dangerous. Not to mention all the background staff who did all the work for him (making rafts etc which he was claiming to be making himself). Disclaimers were added to the original shows after it came out how faked they were. He's a real tosser. Of course all his fans just say he never claimed the shows to be real, he was just providing demonstrations of how to survive.
 
Chlidonias said:
yeah all his earlier shows were outright fakes, the classic one was the Hawaii one where it was mostly filmed on perfectly safe tourist spots which he made out to be epicly dangerous. Not to mention all the background staff who did all the work for him (making rafts etc which he was claiming to be making himself). Disclaimers were added to the original shows after it came out how faked they were. He's a real tosser. Of course all his fans just say he never claimed the shows to be real, he was just providing demonstrations of how to survive.
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I am a fan, and I almost bought tickets when he came to Melbourne a few years ago. :D He does indeed show you how to survive in the wild! If you really want to see a man versus the wild, then watch 'Survivor Man'. He uses a camcorder to film himself. He regularly gets extremely ill and needs to call in a chopper to rescue him.
 
getting back to Nigel Marven, here's a clip of him on Conan O'Brien with some animals. Conan's reactions are priceless :D
 
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Was that the anaconda he was wrestling before?

After seeing that clip he just comes across (to me, anyway) as an idiot ******. Throwing cockroaches at the host and then sticking one in your mouth is just childish.

:rolleyes:

Hix
 
Hix said:
After seeing that clip he just comes across (to me, anyway) as an idiot ******. Throwing cockroaches at the host and then sticking one in your mouth is just childish.
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my opinion exactly
 
Hix said:
Was that the anaconda he was wrestling before?

After seeing that clip he just comes across (to me, anyway) as an idiot ******. Throwing cockroaches at the host and then sticking one in your mouth is just childish.

:rolleyes:

Hix
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I should have watched the entire thing then. I just watched the bit on the vulture, which was cool I guess. Nice bird.
 
Apparently we can't say w.ank.er on here anymore. Which was what got asterisked in my previous post.

:p

Hix
 
Hix said:
Apparently we can't say w.ank.er on here anymore. Which was what got asterisked in my previous post.

:p

Hix
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It's been that way for about a year. Last year, I was posting about a new Pronghorn calf at my home zoo who was named "W anker", and the site censored it out.
 
I think last time I posted the word was in a Craig Busch thread, so that would have been over a year ago.

:p

Hix
 
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