Starlings in captivity

TeaLovingDave said:
Not according to the information regarding the ban released by the EU Commision, as found at the following link:

European Commission - PRESS RELEASES - Press release - New rules for captive bird imports to protect animal health in the EU and improve the welfare of imported birds

To quote the most pertinent section of the above-linked report:



The use of the term "only birds bred in captivity" is pretty cut and dried, I feel.

The only reference to tighter quarantine facilities which Jana mentioned pertains specifically to captive-bred individuals, as follows:



Having trouble finding the full text of the regulation, but as the above is an official publication by the EU Commission it is surely accurate and does not misinterpret the scope of the regulation?
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it is REGULATION (EU) No 139/2013

Article 2

Scope

This Regulation shall apply to animals of the avian species.

However, it shall not apply to:

(a) poultry;

(b) birds imported for conservation programmes approved by the competent authority in the Member State of destination;

(c) pet animals referred to in the third paragraph of Article 1 of Directive 92/65/EEC, accompanying their owner;

(d) birds intended for zoos, circuses, amusement parks or experiments;

(e) birds destined for bodies, institutes or centres approved according to Article 13 of Directive 92/65/EEC;

(f) racing pigeons which are introduced to the territory of the Union from a neighbouring third country where they are normally resident and then immediately released with the expectation that they will fly back to that third country;

(g) birds imported from Andorra, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Norway, San Marino, Switzerland, and the Vatican City State.
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vogelcommando said:
Just found an intresting note about a starling-species which is kept in only a very small number of European public collections ( 8 ) the Crested myna ( Acridotheres cristatellus ).
Around 1900 some birds of this species escaped/ were released ( ? ) around Vancouver and founded a feral population ( I've seen mentioned a population-size of 20.000 birds at the beginning of the 1970-ties ).
Are there ( Canadian ) ZooChatters who know more about this feral population - history and current status and are these birds kept in captivity in Canada - both public and privat ?
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they are no longer found in Canada (in the wild). For the unexpected reason, see this article: Myna's swan song saddens Vancouver
 
Chlidonias said:
they are no longer found in Canada (in the wild). For the unexpected reason, see this article: Myna's swan song saddens Vancouver
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Quite a pity; I imagine many people would much rather they stuck around and that it was their cousin which faltered!

That said, the European Starling is in dire straits in many parts of its native region at present, whilst the Crested Myna is faring okay in southeast Asia, so perhaps not....
 
If the starling is in trouble in its native range, we've got roughly a few million spares in North America y'all are welcome to.
 
For a similar but non-avian example of irony where it pertains to invasive species declining in their native range, the European Rabbit is classified as Near Threatened, and the native population in the Iberian Peninsula and North Africa has declined by 95% since 1950.
 
As for the ban on wild birds imported into Europe I give you Javan Green Magpie,which were not captive bred!
 
zoogiraffe said:
As for the ban on wild birds imported into Europe I give you Javan Green Magpie,which were not captive bred!
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Interesting :) happy to admit when I am wrong!

And also happy to know there *is* scope for wild birds to be imported into collections if the need arises, of course.
 
Everytime I read your posts I die of envy, vogelcommando! Just to see 32 species of starlings in worldwide zoos along an entire life is an impossible dream. But you don't just saw them but also cared for them!!!!!!
With your incredible historial would be difficult to help you with more info that those you already have. But as a sort of ridiculous contribution I will tell you the starling species that I've seen outside European collections:
Black-collared starling (Sturnus nigricollis) in a small cage in the street, in Pekin (Beijing)
Black-winged starling (Sturnus melanopterus) at Taipei Zoo
Emerald starling (Lamprotornis iris) at San Diego Zoo
Golden-breasted starling (Cosmopsarus regius) at San Diego Zoo
Golden-fronted myna (Ampeliceps coronatus) at San Diego Zoo
Greater blue-eared glossy starling (Lamprotornis chalybaeus) at San Diego Zoo
Jungle myna (Acridotheres fuscus) at Taipei Zoo
Metallic starling (Aplonis metallica) at San Diego Zoo
 
In Australia we're pretty limited with options. Common Starlings and Common (Indian) Mynas are feral pests in the eastern states. I saw my first Metallic Starlings, a native species, in Taronga Zoo only a few years ago when they acquired some, but not seen them elsewhere in Australia. The only other 'native' species is the Singing Starling (Aplornis canteroides) which is found on Boigu and Saibai Islands, which are only six kilometres from the PNG coast. And I can't recall seeing any other starlings in Australia.

But worldwide I've seen nine species in captivity and seventeen species in the wild.

:p

Hix
 
Chlidonias said:
it is REGULATION (EU) No 139/2013
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It is easy to clear up the confusion here. A quick search for the Regulation is easy. The relevant section is
Article 2
Scope​
This Regulation shall apply to animals of the avian species.
However, it shall not apply to:
(a) poultry;
(b) birds imported for conservation programmes approved by the competent authority in the Member State of destination;
(c) pet animals referred to in the third paragraph of Article 1 of Directive 92/65/EEC, accompanying their owner;
(d) birds intended for zoos, circuses, amusement parks or experiments;​

and so on.
 
Kakapo said:
Everytime I read your posts I die of envy, vogelcommando! Just to see 32 species of starlings in worldwide zoos along an entire life is an impossible dream. But you don't just saw them but also cared for them!!!!!!
With your incredible historial would be difficult to help you with more info that those you already have. But as a sort of ridiculous contribution I will tell you the starling species that I've seen outside European collections:
Black-collared starling (Sturnus nigricollis) in a small cage in the street, in Pekin (Beijing)
Black-winged starling (Sturnus melanopterus) at Taipei Zoo
Emerald starling (Lamprotornis iris) at San Diego Zoo
Golden-breasted starling (Cosmopsarus regius) at San Diego Zoo
Golden-fronted myna (Ampeliceps coronatus) at San Diego Zoo
Greater blue-eared glossy starling (Lamprotornis chalybaeus) at San Diego Zoo
Jungle myna (Acridotheres fuscus) at Taipei Zoo
Metallic starling (Aplonis metallica) at San Diego Zoo
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Thank you very much for your reply Kakapo ! I would have thought starlings are kept much more commonly in American and ( especialy ) in Asia !
 
Kakapo said:
Everytime I read your posts I die of envy, vogelcommando! Just to see 32 species of starlings in worldwide zoos along an entire life is an impossible dream.
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32 species of starlings is not yet record score! I personally saw 40 species of starlings in captivity, and I think are a lot of people at the forum that saw even more species.
 
In the 1980-ties / 1990-ties have heared several times rumors about "large-scale" Hill-mynah breeding centers in South-east Asia ( Thailand, Indonesia ? ) but never found any more concrete about them. Does anybody if these breeding-station have existed or maybe even still exist ?
 
I doubt they were actual captive breeding centers. Hill Mynahs were often taken from the nest and hand reared for the pet trade I believe, and that sounds more likely.
 
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