Species you hate to see in zoos

FunkyGibbon said:
@SealPup You were right the first time; I am indeed a whining social justice warrior.

I know you know this already, but you come across as unbelievably arrogant on this site. To blithely dismiss "a few adopted foreign children" as unimportant to the debate rather than something that threatens your entire argument is ridiculous. Culture is demonstrably different from ethnicity, as any number of edge cases illustrate.

You are correct that I knew what you meant, and the majority of the time one can interchange culture and ethnicity without losing the meaning of a statement. But that doesn't mean one should.

I'm not going to insult your intelligence by explaining why, it's obvious that someone who is as well educated as you understands my point. But I will say that it is incredibly disingenuous, if not outright dishonest, to feign ignorance of the context of this discussion. I can respect difference of opinion but I cannot respect that.

With regards to Chinese ethnicity, I completely agree that greater use of the word Han would bring a lot of clarity. In my experience, english speaking Chinese nationals tend to use Chinese as something in between ethnicity and nationality. In their understanding someone can be both Miao and Chinese, but someone could also be Miao, Chinese and American. The fact that their family had lived in the states for generations would not matter too much. Identity might be the best word to use.
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Speaking as another (proud) SJW, I think "unbelievably arrogant" is a tad unfair. Learning how to conduct oneself online isn't intuitive for everyone (I'm still learning) and it also takes time for existing communities to accept new additions. This isn't helped by SealPup's bewildering tendency to combine a good point with some... er... not so good ones.

@SealPup: For me, at least, the process could be lubricated if you made an effort to link your posts to existing discussions and, before posting, asked yourself whether the point you're making is actually clear. I might not always agree with you, but I'd rather know we disagree and why. That includes the distinction between culture and ethnicity.

Just one Panda's opinion.


EDIT: Oh, and to follow my own advice about linking posts to existing discussions, any species kept poorly or non-mammal displayed unimaginatively.
 
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FunkyGibbon: the only purpose of language is communication: as long as any chosen usage conveys the statement, it's appropriate. ;)
 
Anamitronic Dino's zoos are obsessed with them for some reason any domestic animals anything that you can have as a pet all hybrids and color variants except white tigers they are beautiful animals and pretty much most birds except ostrich peafowl and flamingoes
 
natel12 said:
Anamitronic Dino's zoos are obsessed with them for some reason any domestic animals anything that you can have as a pet all hybrids and color variants except white tigers they are beautiful animals and pretty much most birds except ostrich peafowl and flamingoes
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Funny how a lot of Zoochatters don't like peafowl. I really enjoy them. As I enjoy most birds.
 
I enjoy birds a lot more now, and have made special trips to stop by aviaries at my local zoos, but as a kid, I could care less for them, and aviaries were easy skips.
 
JVM said:
I enjoy birds a lot more now, and have made special trips to stop by aviaries at my local zoos, but as a kid, I could care less for them, and aviaries were easy skips.
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The only thing I skip is the farm section.
 
elefante said:
Is that a thing? I've only seen animatronic dinosaurs once when I was a kid. They had one you could control and I got in trouble for moving the controls too fast. Whoops.
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once I got the dinosaur control for "growl" mixed up with "eat the teacher". No more school trips for me :(
 
Animationic dinosaurs are rarely high quality paleoart. Since the Crystal Palace era attempts to keep life-size models current have gone downhill: attempts are to bring in visitors who like Jurassic Park, they make threatening noises all the time, predators look threatening, and the noises they do make are stereotypical.

Not only the anatomy but the behaviours and postures ought to recall the live animals in the zoo: blissful relaxation, play, nurture, foraging, mating, visual display.
 
Chlidonias said:
I don't mind lions. I don't bother looking at them in zoos though. They are one of those really popular ABCs which don't do anything much except at feeding time.
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I've rarely seen lions do anything. Tigers a few times, but lions I could probably count on one hand the times I've seen them move. I still enjoy them though.
 
elefante said:
Funny how a lot of Zoochatters don't like peafowl. I really enjoy them. As I enjoy most birds.
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I always imagine if peafowl were only held in a few collections; they'd be prized beyond measure by zoonerds. They truly are extraordinarily beautiful birds.

In terms of species I don't like seeing, I've given this a lot of thought. Despite their overexposure, I still enjoy see most ABCs. However, the one exhibit that really leaves me cold is the cookie cutter South American 'pampas' one. A mixed species effort of some combination of tapir, capybara, mara, rhea and if you're lucky giant anteaters. I've seen it so many times and it's deathly dull. These species can still be interesting, but not like that.

If you really backed me into a corner, I might say ratites. I never linger at these exhibits, but I still don't hate them. Also, I do really like seeing cassowaries, and I do hope to see kiwi one day (I only just found out the kiwis are ratites by the way).

Basically, this question is impossible, especially because of the use of the word 'hate'. :p
 
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