Chester Zoo Chester Zoo Discussion, Speculation & Questions 2018

Not everyone interprets the same information the same way and sometimes pressures in life upon a person might make them take comments in a very different manner to which they are intended; esp online when the written word doesn't always convey exactly what a person means or where there isn't often quick follow up of clarification (in face to face if a person started to look confused angry or hurt one might make further comment to better present their angle where their point was not designed to create that pained emotion).

It might also be that even suggestions on where things should be housed might have been seen as people trying to take advantage of privilege or the undertone of if something wasn't housed in the "perfect" spot then its failure on the zoo (which means keepers). This could very much be a case if there's a clear ideal spot and yet internal situations to the zoo prevent it being used (could be internal politics, costs, other plans, oversight, different priorities etc...)

So what might not be hurtful or might only be speculation could be taken in a different way.
 
I know from my own job how unpleasant it is to hear people telling you something is easy when you either can't do it for reasons you can't discuss, or could do it but only by not doing a host of other things you're being asked to do..!
 
Aye, its rare for anyone to be able to work with the perfect tools and situation in any line of work; there is nearly always some form of compromise occurring at some level. Plus when it comes to some areas (esp animal care) there's huge variety on opinions as to what is the required standard anyway so even if there's little compromise there can be wide variations in views as to what is suitable.


Part of it might also be the unique position of zoochat in that its basically about the only site of its nature around; and a very large one as well. Thus it holds more influence than I think many casual members might realise; it might also be that some (in the business) might also put more weight in what is said here than might be intended or healthy at times.
 
I guess anybody who has an intense passion for anything is probably highly sensitised in relation to any comments that may be made about it. It can’t be helped.
 
People were saying where the tree kangaroo could be housed. Tim Rowlands took exception to the
discussion and cancelled the mammal walk and talks.
Worth mentioning that it wasn't as clear cut as that, so running the risk of repeating a theme, let's not speculate or draw conclusions.

Besides, the walks and events we organised with curators (Andrew, Richard but especially Tim) were a luxury, not something the zoo was obliged to provide.
 
People were saying where the tree kangaroo could be housed. Tim Rowlands took exception to the
discussion and cancelled the mammal walk and talks.

That's a great shame as Tims walk and talk was probably my zoo highlight of the year.

I know Chester Zoo has many friends and supporters on Zoochat and I would like to take this opportunity of thanking him for all the time he and his colleagues gave to us previously.
 
Worth mentioning that it wasn't as clear cut as that, so running the risk of repeating a theme, let's not speculate or draw conclusions.

Besides, the walks and events we organised with curators (Andrew, Richard but especially Tim) were a luxury, not something the zoo was obliged to provide.

Absolutely! Whilst its a shame there won't be any more, what happened, happened. Better to be happy and thankful that such an act of generosity was available in the first place, than be annoyed at it ending, as it was only ever a very special treat. Nobody was entitled to anything.

BTW, as someone who is interested in Chester Zoo but not that knowledgeable, can someone tell me who Andrew & Richard are? I know Tim Rowlands is the Curator of Mammals, are they Curators of the other sections (Birds and Lower Vertebrates)? To be honest I only real know names of people through the TV series and presumably most of the stars are not senior staff/management?
 
BTW, as someone who is interested in Chester Zoo but not that knowledgeable, can someone tell me who Andrew & Richard are? I know Tim Rowlands is the Curator of Mammals, are they Curators of the other sections (Birds and Lower Vertebrates)? To be honest I only real know names of people through the TV series and presumably most of the stars are not senior staff/management?

Andrew Owen - Curator of Birds
 
Absolutely! Whilst its a shame there won't be any more...
As I said, let's not jump to conclusions.
BTW, as someone who is interested in Chester Zoo but not that knowledgeable, can someone tell me who Andrew & Richard are? I know Tim Rowlands is the Curator of Mammals, are they Curators of the other sections (Birds and Lower Vertebrates)? To be honest I only real know names of people through the TV series and presumably most of the stars are not senior staff/management?
Tim Rowlands is curator of mammals: Tim Rowlands | Curator of Mammals | Chester Zoo

Andrew Owen is curator of birds: Andrew Owen | Curator of Birds | Chester Zoo

Richard Gibson was curator of lower vertebrates and invertebrates. He's now curator of ectotherms and birds at Auckland Zoo.
 
As I said, let's not jump to conclusions.

Tim Rowlands is curator of mammals: Tim Rowlands | Curator of Mammals | Chester Zoo

Andrew Owen is curator of birds: Andrew Owen | Curator of Birds | Chester Zoo

Richard Gibson was curator of lower vertebrates and invertebrates. He's now curator of ectotherms and birds at Auckland Zoo.

Thanks for your answer, and especially for the links - some interesting reading there. The sheer number of people who make Chester Zoo, and its associated projects, happen, blows my mind!
 
Thanks for your answer, and especially for the links - some interesting reading there. The sheer number of people who make Chester Zoo, and its associated projects, happen, blows my mind!

And their team continues to grow all the time, too!
 
It technically might be late and irrelevant but last year on November Chester zoo was featured in Japanese television focusing on the rare (according to Japanese standards) animals there and other features along with some other western places.
 
Predominantly in marketing, retail, HR, administration and middle-management, but not in horticulture, animal husbandry or conservation.

Yes - their management jobs are what I’m interested in, so that’s a good thing for me. I have my eye on their vacancies all the time.
 
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