Rare species kept in private (european) collections
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Kakapo
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The content of the message seems contradictory with the title thread: species rare in public collections or species rare in private collections? (Usually both are coincident). I see no sense in mentioning just species witouth indication of which public/private collection on which they are hold (at least, the country).
By the way, we could start at the ACTP, a private parrot breeding center in Berlin that is fulfilled with rarities.
By the way, we could start at the ACTP, a private parrot breeding center in Berlin that is fulfilled with rarities.
Sorry, to clarify everyrhing
The idea of this thread is to mention species that are kept (common) in private collections, but about to... or allready vanished from public institutions ...so there is a chance that these species might have a comeback to public places
The idea of this thread is to mention species that are kept (common) in private collections, but about to... or allready vanished from public institutions ...so there is a chance that these species might have a comeback to public places
Neither Mrs Hume's Pheasant nor Japanese Green Pheasant are on display in UK zoos, but are being bred in private collections.
So, not many in zoos considering how many zoos there are in Europe.
I regard UK as part of Europe, a part of Europe where no zoo has a representative collection of pheasants.
Oh really? The number of species kept in private aviculture is about 3 to 4 times bigger than the number of species kept in public collections. And that includes species that haven't been seen in public collections in about 100 years. It might be closer to the other way around. There are very few species in public collections that are not kept in private aviculture.
Kakapo
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I understand this post as "species about to evanishe or already evanished in public collections and commonly kept in private hands within Europe", according to the explanation of author in the message #3. So this is not the same that "species not present in many zoos and kept in private hands, but not necessarily being "commonly" kept in private hands".
Andorra is also a part of Europe and here alsmot all ABC animals that are seen in almost every European zoo, are absent... This doesn't mean that a meerkat is a rarely seen species in Europe, that is the region supposed to be covered by this thread if I understood it well... Correct me if I'm wrong please.
Kakapo
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Seriously? I could not imagine that. Some species yes, but 3 or 4 times more species???? This sounds surprising...
I know for example Green Junglefowl is a species still kept in private hands and disappeared from public collections in Europe, but, I doubt it could be called "commonly" kept in private hands
Yes, seriously!
For example, there are 5 species of bee-eaters currently kept in zoos is 5. In the past 2 years I saw atleast 6 more which are not kept including a few that have never been kept by European zoos.
There are no mountain tanager kept at the moment but I saw 5 species in the past 2 years.
For example, there are 5 species of bee-eaters currently kept in zoos is 5. In the past 2 years I saw atleast 6 more which are not kept including a few that have never been kept by European zoos.
There are no mountain tanager kept at the moment but I saw 5 species in the past 2 years.
One example of a species common in private hands which is all-but-absent from public collections would be Short-tailed Opossum - currently held in only three European collections according to ZTL, but very common in private collections.
Aren't the
Arent there one or two tenrec species to which this also applies?
I presume you mean the two Streaked species - in which case, these are pretty rare in private hands too, and liable to get even more scarce in coming years given the fact that the individual who was primarily responsible for importing the species into Europe has now passed away.
Would Stubeanz know? He hasn't posted on Zoochat since 2015.
He's actually my source for the above statement regarding the individual responsible for the presence of streaked tenrecs in Europe
I remember seeing Stubeanz showing a range of tenrec skins at the Natural History Museum - representing several species I have never seen elsewhere.
Dear Cephie, would you be so please to give the english and latin name of these species you have seen
I knew there are quiet aview species, but not that many and I am very curious which species are kept so this thread becomes some kind of a list of those species