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zoogiraffe said:
Simple answer a zoo holding only surplus males plenty of zoos doing that in Europe and the UK,and who knows what bulls maybe available when TB restrictions are lifted a ready made herd of females able to breed is an attractive proposition.Well if Yoda is just an unwanted expense I suggest we apply the Copenhagen approach to surplus male giraffes!
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Not sure how successful that would be with an older in an established herd with breeding experience? Bachelor groups tend to be for animals who are young and haven't yet bred, but I suppose that would be possible. You also have to contend then with a male who would be able breed with both females offspring, as well as the two adult females. Either way, a large amount of shuffling around would be quite likely.
If the "Copenhagen approach", as you put it, was an option, it would likely have happened already!
 
zoogiraffe said:
Simple answer a zoo holding only surplus males plenty of zoos doing that in Europe and the UK,and who knows what bulls maybe available when TB restrictions are lifted a ready made herd of females able to breed is an attractive proposition.Well if Yoda is just an unwanted expense I suggest we apply the Copenhagen approach to surplus male giraffes!
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At least one former breeding male Gorilla has been successfully integrated into a bachelor group of younger males. Wonder if it can work with hoofstock? Cotswold of course have a bachelor group, currently down to two animals (castrated?).
 
This would of happened when Longleat moved out their former breeding bull (forgotten name begins with K) to Port Lympne had he not died on way. The other one is Kismet from Marwell to Chessington who has successfully integrated
 
FBBird said:
At least one former breeding male Gorilla has been successfully integrated into a bachelor group of younger males. Wonder if it can work with hoofstock? Cotswold of course have a bachelor group, currently down to two animals (castrated?).
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I think it would be potentially much easier with hoofstock, lacking the complex social issues of primates like Gorillas. I would think Giraffe males are quite tolerant of each other, whatever their ages or former background. I wouldn't envisage a big problem placing a former breeding bull with other males.
 
Pertinax said:
I think it would be potentially much easier with hoofstock, lacking the complex social issues of primates like Gorillas. I would think Giraffe males are quite tolerant of each other, whatever their ages or former background. I wouldn't envisage a big problem placing a former breeding bull with other males.
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Giraffes are indeed pretty tolerant to changing group constellation. However, they get more conservative about their surroundings with growing age. For example former breeding bull Šimon in Prague. He was moved into a new house when he was 15/16 years old. And he never in his life visited the large outside pen because he never wanted to pass under the visitor bridge between his new pavilion and said pen. Keepers tried every trick known for ca 8 years till his death, they tried to offer treats, they tried to train him with target, they tried to scare him with noise, they even used small bulldozer to push him out with force, but to no avail. He never followed the herd outside.

BTW Formation of bachelor herds in ungulates differs immensely based on species. While Giraffes or Greater Kudu are ok with it, zebras are based on individual preferences, but it is streight impossible for example with Mrs Gray's lechwe - only bulls that grew up together will tolerate each other, introduction of unknown bull is mission impossible.
 
Jana said:
For example former breeding bull Šimon in Prague. He was moved into a new house when he was 15/16 years old. And he never in his life visited the large outside pen because he never wanted to pass under the visitor bridge between his new pavilion and said pen.
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That seems to be a case where he couldn't adapt fully to the new surroundings, rather than to the new Giraffes. Interesting what you say about some other ungulates e.g. Black Lechwe, not tolerating living with strange males. I didn't know that. But from what you say it seems possible with Giraffes.
 
Child covered in blood after peacock attack at Paignton Zoo

A parent has called for signs telling children not to go near the zoo's free-range peacocks after his daughter was attacked by one in the Ranch. As a result, the zoo has put up a sign in the entrance area asking parents to supervise their children at all times.

On an unrelated point, it always surprises me when parents let their children chase the peacocks, gulls and other wandering birds.
 
Gigit said:
Child covered in blood after peacock attack at Paignton Zoo

A parent has called for signs telling children not to go near the zoo's free-range peacocks after his daughter was attacked by one in the Ranch. As a result, the zoo has put up a sign in the entrance area asking parents to supervise their children at all times.

On an unrelated point, it always surprises me when parents let their children chase the peacocks, gulls and other wandering birds.
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Oh for goodness sake - I wonder what the child was doing... and then I wonder what the parents were doing too :rolleyes:
 
Zia said:
Oh for goodness sake - I wonder what the child was doing... and then I wonder what the parents were doing too :rolleyes:
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I remember someone at another zoo complaining that our normally very benign peahen had attacked her kid. Turned out the child had been chasing the peachicks.
 
I read a similar complaint on another zoo's website recently; I rarely look at Paignton's but will have look for the message.
 
Quincey said:
A female Komodo Dragon will be arriving shortly from Zoo de Barcelona. Crocodile Swamp will be closed from Monday 9th July to give her time to settle in, before she will be on show from Friday 20th July.

Paignton Zoo Environmental Park
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Excellent! I never thought another UK zoo would be getting Komodo dragons this year instead of it being just Birmingham WCP! :D

I wonder which UK zoo will be next to get them soon... *crosses fingers*
 
Nisha said:
Asian Lioness, Indu has been euthanized after being diagnosed with TB. Indu was 14 and had lived at Paignton since her birth in October 2003 (to Midas and Jamna)

Paignton Zoo's lion dies after contracting TB
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The prospect of a return to normality gets pushed further into the future :( We've started to think that each visit will reveal the disappearance of yet another individual mammal, for whatever reason. It's a good thing that the reptile and bird departments are doing so well.
 
This is VERY bad news!! Not just for the pride, but for the Mammal collection! As Gigit rightly states, it could be a Reptile & Bird park in a couple of years if it doesn't get sorted....
 
TriUK said:
This is VERY bad news!! Not just for the pride, but for the Mammal collection! As Gigit rightly states, it could be a Reptile & Bird park in a couple of years if it doesn't get sorted....
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You say it like a reptile/bird park would be a bad thing! Haha, could be re-branded as a Jurassic Park-like establishment! In all seriousness though, it's only one individual, and with respect to Indu, she was old and had a lot of health issues, so it was going to happen at some point anyway.

Thus far, it looks like all the other mammals are getting the all clear, so fingers crossed it will all be over soon.
 
I haven't heard about that many animals at Paington zoo dying of TB. Can someone please name the indervidgels and species that have lost their lives due to this horrendous disease?

Many thanks The Hedgehog
 
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