Sumatran Tigers in Europe

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Zoofan15 said:
Do you have any records on the cubs of Cantik (born August 1992 at Arnhem Zoo, Holland) @Senapus? I know of 1.2 cubs (Rokan, Nisha and Malu) born December 1996; and 1.2 cubs (Jaka, Mencari and Molek) born January 2000; but was curious if she had any non surviving cubs, either in those two litters mentioned, or other litters?
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I only can find those 2 litters and those cubs you named.
 
ZSL London - male, Jae-Jae (B2008SanFrancisco) will move to Le Parc De Felins very shortly.

Male, Asim (B2011Frankfurt) will then move from Ree Park to London as a new partner for Melati.
 
Senapus said:
I only can find those 2 litters and those cubs you named.
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That's okay, all of Cantik's cubs must have survived then. I had just wondered if one of the litters had been quadruplets, and the zoo had never announced the death of the fourth cub in the litter etc.

Is there somewhere online I can view all this info? I have several tigers I'd like to research!
 
Zoofan15 said:
Has Isha never bred? She's born 2006, so will be 13 this year (i.e. time is running out).
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Not yet. Though she has relations in Europe already (her mother was born in Rotterdam, and she's distantly related to Melati at London) so that combined with her age - I wouldn't think she's a priority for breeding.

Le Parc De Felins have two Sumatran Tiger exhibits. One for a breeding pair and a none breeding pair. I would guess that Isha will move into the none breeding enclosure (which is currently empty) and Jae-Jae will form a breeding pair with a new female.

I hope they're going to move Tondi (Isha's current mate) elsewhere. He was born in Honolulu, has no relation to other individuals in the EEP and has yet to breed. If he's capable of doing the job then it's a huge shame to waste him.
 
Does anyone know if there was a biological reason Tondi and Isha never bred? I’d imagine they were very keen to breed from Isha initially as they went to the effort of importing her from Australia. Melati’s success at ZSL; and the success of Tenang’s line (also a cousin of Isha) may have lessened Isha’s value to the EEP, but she would still be relatively high ranking genetically and if the fault was with Tondi (biologically); or they were incompatible, they might want to give Isha one last shot with Jae Jae. Aside from being a proven breeder, he’s a relatively gentle and easy going for a male tiger.
 
Thank you both of you for the date of BANDA's death.

Michel L'HUILLIER said:
Does anyone have some infos about NENA (born 00/00/1993 Krefeld) ?
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NENA (F) was born on 27 September 1993, moved to Barcelona on 29 September 1994 and dies there on 29 July 2007. (TIM X ULLIE)
She had two littermates TIMOR (M) (who dies 2017 in the parc des felins) and LIZA (F), who moved to Rabat Zoo.
 
When Martin (born Rotterdam in 1986) resided at Thrigby Hall I believe he sired a litter of 0.3 in 1989 (including Musi who then went to Rotterdam). Can anyone confirm if this is true and if so - what happened to the other 2 female cubs and who was their mother? Thank you
 
Thank you Senapus for the above info. I too had the same two missing from my list. I have 2 more questions regarding the Thrigby Tigers. Did Musi go to Chessington with Aceh, and do you have Sutra's history. I think she came from Krefeld?
 
Thank you so much Senapus. Any chance you know where/when Sutra was born and to whom? did she have any other cubs?
 
SumatrIan said:
Thank you Senapus for the above info. I too had the same two missing from my list. I have 2 more questions regarding the Thrigby Tigers. Did Musi go to Chessington with Aceh, and do you have Sutra's history. I think she came from Krefeld?
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No, MUSI moves together with MEDAN to Linton Zoo on 20 December 1989. She lives there for 10 years before she travels to Rotterdam. ACEH goes her way alone to Chessington.

Yes, SUTRA was born in the zoo of Krefeld on 19 December 1985. She moves to Thrigby Hall 1987. Her littermates leaves Krefeld the same year. Her brother BRUNO (M) move to Arnhem where he died in 1997. And her other brother WARRIOR lives in Marwell and Bristol - he dies in 1993.
The parents of SUTRA are TIM and ULLIE. She is a sister of NENA, a few posts above.

Willow said:
Thank you so much Senapus. Any chance you know where/when Sutra was born and to whom? did she have any other cubs?
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Yes she had other cubs. One male cub in April 1994, which only lives for two weeks.
Two male cubs in August 1994 named SUMA and KALI. Both moved to Paignton and later Drayton Manor where they died in 2013 and 2011.
An other litter was born in November 1996. A male and a female cub didn't survive. Only DAPHNE (F) grows up and moves to the Welsh Mountain Zoo where she dies in 2012.
SUTRA'S last cubs where born in September 1998. The male one named FLYNN moved to the Welsh Mountain Zoo with his older sister DAPHNE and dies 2015. The sibling named FINTY (F) should still live in Thrigby Hall.

Father of all these last litters where MAYJUBLI from KUALA LUMPUR. He died in Thrigby Hall in 2005. He wasn't a pure blooded sumatran tiger.

Oh my good I hope my english is understandable.
 
The only Tiger's at Thrigby Hall currently are female Dua (B2004 Dublin) and male Kubu (B2011 Smarden). I don't recall Finty ever being mentioned before on this thread (in nearly 9 years) so would suspect that the studbook wasn't updated when she passed away.
 
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